Episode Transcript
[00:00:05] Speaker A: Hello.
We are so back.
Thanks for listening to a new episode of the Dish with Tish.
I am Tish, here with my lovely producer, Mr. Matthew Stuart.
[00:00:24] Speaker B: You know that ain't right.
[00:00:26] Speaker A: No, I got it.
[00:00:27] Speaker B: So it.
[00:00:28] Speaker A: So I literally was like, I'm gonna eat this.
[00:00:32] Speaker B: I literally was like, oh, she's gonna say something funny on purpose.
It's me, Matt S.
At this point.
[00:00:40] Speaker A: It's Matt S. Producer Matt S. It's producer Matt S. Jesus. Oh, my God, you guys. I am just so overwhelmed by everything that's happening right now, y'all. We have been missing. We've been a little MIA for the last couple weeks because this Mercury, the retrograde, has been in the fucking microwave and it is blowing up our lives. Technology has not been our friend. The planets have not been aligned, and we've missed dishing with you so much. But best believe we've been eating good. Okay? We're all fed by all of the content and everything that's happening in the pop culture world worlds. But now with the Dish with Tish, the buffet is finally motherfucking open. So grab your plates because we are about to go in on as much as we can. Chomp, chomp, chomp, nibble, nibble, nibble.
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I'm literally. My brain. It's like the Rolodex. I'm just like, like, going through everything that has happened in the last two weeks since we've dished, and it doesn't even count because the last one was an Oscar recap. So, like, there's a. Literally so much to discuss right now. But I think probably the biggest thing for our listeners and us in the pop culture world is the announcement yesterday at 9am, mind you, so starting my day with this news that Ms. Garcelle Bouvet from the Real Housewives of Beverly Hills is leaving. She announced it on an Instagram post.
[00:02:34] Speaker B: This week saying, and she's in California, which means that was 7am for her.
[00:02:39] Speaker A: Right?
Right.
[00:02:42] Speaker B: Get some sleep, Garcelle.
[00:02:44] Speaker A: But you would. You couldn't tell it was 7am Because Miss. Ms. Bouvet was snatched.
[00:02:49] Speaker B: She looked correct.
[00:02:50] Speaker A: She looked correct. Like, okay, I'm ending on top. Like, if I'm going to do a mic drop, I want to look like that while I'm doing it.
[00:02:59] Speaker B: Well, it made sense why she posted it so early, because it seems like she was maybe trying to get ahead of the reunion trailer, perhaps.
[00:03:09] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah. And I mean, let's talk about Garcelle. We have to talk about this departure because there's so much that she represented in the Beverly Hills franchise. I mean, she made history as Beverly Hills first black cast member, you know, and with that came immense pressure. Right. And expectations. And I think that she embraced those expectations and pressures, like, in such a brave, intelligent, funny, goofy time. Like, I feel like she was always having a good time. And I feel like she also, like, brought a lot of important conversations to that franchise, you know, especially in terms of race to the show. And it never felt like heavy handed, a la Ebony Williams of Real Housewives of New York when they tried to, you know, bring their first cast member. And it just was like. It felt like a bit, in a way, you know, like, it was so.
[00:04:15] Speaker B: It was like, let's take Ramona to, like, a black history course.
[00:04:19] Speaker A: Right? Like, let me teach you about racism in 2020. And them just, like, blinking like, where's the cocktails? Right where. I need turtle time. I need my wine. But I feel like Garcelle never let that define her time on the show. And I think that that's, like, really important. And another thing is, like, she had an established career coming into the fold. Right. Like, one thing we say about housewives is, like, when rich women come onto the show and don't need the show, that usually makes them the better housewives because they don't need it.
[00:05:02] Speaker B: And she definitely used the platform, like, as a great. Like a launching point for herself. She got her beach house. She's been producing all these.
[00:05:12] Speaker A: Yeah. Tubi movies to be Lifetime prime, you know, TikTok. Okay. QVC. Like, she's gonna. She's gonna do something about it.
Of course she was. She was a. She had a lot of stocks in Quibi.
[00:05:31] Speaker B: She's the first housewife in the mcu.
That's true.
[00:05:35] Speaker A: That's a true fact. Yes. No, literally. And I don't know, she wasn't in it for the paycheck, you know, like, she never acted out of desperation. Like, her career didn't need the show. But I feel like she definitely benefit. Why are you making that face?
I don't think she was there for a paycheck. No. Garcelle Buffet. I grew up with her. I was.
[00:06:01] Speaker B: I agree that she has, but I feel like she was kind of like, a little strategic with how she used the platform. I feel like she used it as a way smart to raise her brand awareness.
[00:06:15] Speaker A: Yes.
[00:06:15] Speaker B: Which is valid.
[00:06:17] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:06:18] Speaker B: But I don't know if she ever really, like, gave me the housewives that I. I wanted from her. Like, I still just don't really know that much about her. Life.
[00:06:27] Speaker A: I mean, that's fair. Like, sure, I'll give you that. But in terms of giving housewife, I feel like she. She leaned into being a housewife. She's a professional, okay? She's an actor, mama. So she came in and she stirred the pot. She was the bone collector. She was asking the questions that all the viewers wanted to know, but the housewives were too scared to ask. Okay? And she did what was required of her.
[00:07:03] Speaker B: So was she acting or was it reality?
[00:07:06] Speaker A: I think it could have been a mix of the two, because I think she shared her life. I don't think she shared. She wasn't as open as a lot of the women, but she talked about her kids. She talked about her divorce. She showed us getting her little beach house. Like, I don't know. I feel like she. And she doesn't really have. I'm sure she fucking. I'm sure she fudge it. I'm sure Garcelle is getting dicked down.
[00:07:30] Speaker B: Then. Let's see.
[00:07:32] Speaker A: But not everything. I don't know. I feel like, yeah, a lot of the women, like, of course you're sharing your life, but, like, if I'm not at anything serious and I'm just, like, having a good time, what's the point of show? I don't know.
[00:07:46] Speaker B: Well, I don't know.
[00:07:46] Speaker A: I kind of get it.
[00:07:47] Speaker B: I get it. But she's so nosy with everybody else.
She's, like, asking Kyle. She's like, so how's Morgan's box taste?
[00:07:58] Speaker A: She said, you know what?
[00:08:00] Speaker B: People want to know, like, are you a lesbian?
[00:08:03] Speaker A: And that's your right, if you want to be a lesbian, you know, like.
[00:08:06] Speaker B: What about your lesbian relationship?
I don't know. I have such, like, a complicated. Because I like Garcelle. I've always enjoyed, especially her confessionals. Like, she always kind of gave a good talking head.
But there's also something to be said for, like, kind of saving a lot of the best content for the confessional, when maybe in the moment you should say how you're feeling.
[00:08:29] Speaker A: And you don't think she did. And you don't think Garcelle, of all people, did that. I feel like she was literally one of the only ones that would be, like, your marriage.
[00:08:39] Speaker B: That's what she's talking about. She did. But then I don't think she, like, went there. You know, she said all this stuff about Dorit's, like, robbery kind of behind the scenes. And I feel like she was very vocal about Erica a little more off screen and, like, away from Erica. During the whole, like, lawsuit situation, but.
[00:08:56] Speaker A: That was also, like, legal. You know what I mean? Like, I don't know if I'm gonna ask actually gonna be interjecting when you got hundreds of millions of dollars on the line. I don't know if I'm gonna be on camera talking my shit as loosely as I would about a bitch with a funky accent who. You know.
[00:09:16] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:09:16] Speaker A: Seemed like she was scheming. I don't know.
[00:09:20] Speaker B: I don't know. I just feel like I either want Garcelle to, like, go all the way there or, like, don't. I feel like she likes to be. I think Dorit said passively provocative, and I think that was kind of a good description. I mean, obviously, like, in real life, I would probably take Garcelle's side over Dorit. But, like, in terms of, like, when I watch housewives and I look at it from, like, a show perspective, I do feel like a lot of the times Garcelle was, like, a little passive aggressive, and I wanted her to kind of, like, stand on business. And like, now seeing, like, this trailer for the reunion of her walking out when the heat is on her, I'm like, come on. Like, stay there. Stand on business. This is the second reunion in a row that she's left.
[00:09:58] Speaker A: Yeah. And I mean, let's talk about fudgeing. Watch what happens live with Erica and Bose the way. I mean, Erica, it's so funny to me because you. Y'all know I love a theory. You know me and my theories. And I do find it odd that none of the other women have actually acknowledged her exit on social media. Besides the first one, the only person that did when it initially happened was Jennifer Tilly. And she said, like, oh, you brought so much to the show. We're gonna miss you so much. And then, like, Garcelle, you were so.
[00:10:35] Speaker B: Good on the show. Garcelle.
[00:10:37] Speaker A: Right. And then, like, nine hours later, Sutton said something in, like, post.
[00:10:42] Speaker B: She was sleeping probably.
[00:10:44] Speaker A: Oh, something.
[00:10:45] Speaker B: Probably had a couple vodka.
[00:10:46] Speaker A: Yeah, she had a little hangover.
But, like, that is a little shady. Like, that's unusual. It is, because. I'm sorry. Like, that's not how this usually works. Like, usually when someone announces their departure from the show, it's like, we've seen it in the past. Almost immediately, the other cast members be like, oh, my God. Best wishes on your next chapter. Like, wishing you the best of luck in the future. And Garcelle is getting none of that online. And then last night on Watch what happens live, when Andy asked Erica and Bose about what they thought of Garcelle's departure. They literally. Crickets, like, hear a pin drop, hear the. The ice in the glass shaking. Like, everyone's like, oh. Oh.
[00:11:38] Speaker B: It was very interesting. It's making me very, like, I really want to watch this reunion now, because I want to see. Because clearly, they left things on bad terms. They took the cast photo, and Garcelle was not in the cast photo.
[00:11:51] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:11:51] Speaker B: And of course, there's Sutton being, like, you know, which I think is so shady, because I feel like Garcelle has been always riding so hard for Sutton. And I could see how maybe something like that would be the last straw for Garcelle to be like, I put so much work and took so much, like, backlash from these ladies about, like, constantly, like, for Sutton. And then, like, when the heat is on Garcelle, it's like, Sutton is so desperate to be Kyle's friend. It's, like, strange.
[00:12:20] Speaker A: Like, Garcelle said to Kyle, you're the hero in Sutton's story. You know, like, you are. It hurts more coming from you. Maybe because they were friends before Sutton came on the show, so she might be feeling, like, an extra allegiance to her and all the connections that she has and, like, the figure that she is.
[00:12:42] Speaker B: That's what it is. Sutton is like a, you know, social climber.
[00:12:47] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:12:48] Speaker B: She acts like she has no friends in the group, but then I'm like, you literally have, like, two people who are with you right now. Like, why are you acting like the whole group's against you when, like, Garcelle and Jennifer are here, like, constantly backing you out.
[00:12:58] Speaker A: Right. Writing for you? It was interesting, though, like, Erica being like. When Andy asked her what she thought of Garcelle saying, you know, I married for love, not money, referring to Erica. And Erica, literally, it is so hard to make Auntie Cohen's jaw drop and be speechless. But she said, we both married ugly white guys who cheated on us, so, you know, for love.
[00:13:32] Speaker B: And Erica is, like, assassin.
[00:13:36] Speaker A: She said, y'all shouldn't have let me loose. She literally said that. And I was like, damn.
[00:13:40] Speaker B: I mean, that's what I want to see. Like, that's why I want. I want Garcelle to stick it out, because I want to see, like, her go at it with Erica. Like, when the going gets tough, you can't just, like, leave.
[00:13:50] Speaker A: Yeah, I know, but I feel like Garcelle leaving, you know? And Erica even said, I wish she would have stuck it out. Like, I wish she would have stayed one more season and we could have Resolved this. And I had a feeling that that's what it was. That maybe her relationships with the women and especially Sutton, like, we saw the friction in their relationship start to form. The. The cracks were starting to solidify. And I think that if she didn't have Sutton, I like, you know, she doesn't really have anyone else like that on the show. Because before Sutton, she had Denise. And we all know how that turned out. Denise Richards. So I think that she's making the right choice for herself because. Because clearly she was fed up. It's better to pull yourself out when you're fed up instead of just trudging along, you know, just like, faking the fun, getting dragged. Because ultimately you could tell the audience is not really with Garcelle, like, that the ladies are starting to sour and feel some kind of way about her. So she said, let me just make my exit before next season. Probably would have been the Garcelle takedown. And she said, it won't be me. It won't be me.
[00:15:15] Speaker B: Those Beverly Hills ladies love to just take down. They love. They love a takedown, and they love to disengage. LVP not going to the reunion. Adrian didn't go to that one reunion.
They're like, not me today.
[00:15:28] Speaker A: And again, it's the women who don't need it necessarily. And they're like, you know what? You not finna drag my name through the coals. Like, it won't be me.
[00:15:38] Speaker B: And Erica was like, Erica endured, like, the Erica takedown. Because there was, like, not a lot on the other side for her.
[00:15:46] Speaker A: Well, I mean, and Erica, I'm need this paycheck. Yeah. And I mean, Erica needed the paycheck, of course, but also, I think she wanted to clear her name.
[00:15:56] Speaker B: True. Plus, Erica is just one of those, like, can take it. Like, she can dish it out and she can take it. I feel like. Like, I feel like Kenya Moore is the same way. Like, Kenya Moore is, like, one of the only housewives that's like, literally sat and endured a reunion where, like, every single person was against her and she was still, like, fighting and keeping up with everyone. That's what I loved. Teresa Giudice. Housewives that will just take a beating and keep going. Shannon Boudor.
[00:16:23] Speaker A: Some of those women kind of have to. Because they don't really have anything. You know what I mean?
[00:16:30] Speaker B: Yes. And I think all of the ones I named have had legal issues.
[00:16:33] Speaker A: Right. Like, literally, like, they kind of have to probably a. Because you gotta have a job with your probation or like, Your community service, you have to be employed at all.
[00:16:44] Speaker B: Times, and lawyers are expensive.
[00:16:46] Speaker A: You know, I feel like there is something about a woman who stays and makes it through the other side. Like an Erica. Like, she's been so entertaining this season and seeing her, like, find her sense of independence and get her happy back has been refreshing, you know?
[00:17:07] Speaker B: Yeah. Wait, am I not the only person that enjoys watching Erica decorate her house? Every single person on Twitter is like, what is Erica bringing this season? I'm just seeing her decorate her apartment and I'm like, what makes you think I don't want to see, like, a rich woman with fabulous taste, like, do interior design? Like, there's an entire TV network dedicated to that.
[00:17:26] Speaker A: Tell them, tell them, girl.
[00:17:29] Speaker B: I know there's such like a. Like, you need to have a storyline on Housewives. And I'm like, sometimes you can just be like, living your life and decorating a house.
[00:17:40] Speaker A: Yeah. Like, to me, the best housewives are the ones that have the money, can do the fun little things that we want to see, like decorating your house, building a store or a fashion line, something like that. Breaking the drama, dishing it, and then keeping it moving.
[00:17:58] Speaker B: And like, how many seasons did we watch lbp, like, just planning parties.
[00:18:02] Speaker A: Right. I love that.
[00:18:03] Speaker B: It was amazing.
[00:18:04] Speaker A: If you have the money to shell out for those extravagant things, of course I want to see that.
[00:18:11] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:18:11] Speaker A: And if you could bring that drama to the event that you were planning.
Dream case scenario.
[00:18:17] Speaker B: Exactly. I'm trying to see women fight at like a insane, you know, $500,000 white party, not some barbecue in Potomac.
[00:18:26] Speaker A: Right, right. Well, speaking of extravagant parties in fights, there, Real Housewives of Atlanta had a showdown at the Bao mom store.
[00:18:38] Speaker B: See, that's what I want from Real Housewives. I want a showdown at a closed down Balmain store.
[00:18:44] Speaker A: Right. And a lot of people online were like, oh my God, I'm not jiving with them. It's so boring. And I'm like, are you kidding me?
[00:18:53] Speaker B: Kind of giving.
[00:18:54] Speaker A: It's kind of giving. Like, this is what I want. There's real relationships, real interpersonal stories. Like Shamia going through her pregnancy journey. Oh, my God, that's so, like everything that she's going through and the fact that she still is showing up and clocking in.
[00:19:15] Speaker B: Carrie Shamia had such, like, main character energy this whole time.
[00:19:20] Speaker A: I'm telling you, I did, I did.
[00:19:23] Speaker B: I'm so impressed by her. You know, I made this, like, parallel in my head today that Shamia reminds me of Angie K. But like, conceptually, just because they, like, were a friend for so long and kind of, like, went through this, like, Housewives boot camp. Almost like they went to, like, Housewives University where they studied how to be a housewife. And they were, you know, they were seasoned by the time they're making their debuts. And much like Angie K. I feel like the relationship that Shmia has with Portia kind of mirrors the relationship that Angie has with Lisa Barlow, where now it seems like there's kind of some growing pains in the relationship. As you know, Portia, who was constantly kind of above Shamia, is now watching Shamia kind of be center peach and, you know, the first chair kind of housewife, and it's causing a little bit.
[00:20:12] Speaker A: Of a RA girl. That is literally. Can I just say, that is such a perfect comparison. That is exactly it. It is literally the same thing, and just with some. Okay, it's. No, I didn't say that.
[00:20:32] Speaker B: I didn't say that.
[00:20:33] Speaker A: No, I heard what you said it. You said it with the hard arbit. She said it with the hard arbitration.
[00:20:40] Speaker B: I didn't say all that.
[00:20:43] Speaker A: No, but, like.
[00:20:49] Speaker B: Oh.
[00:20:51] Speaker A: Oh, my God. Literally, it's. It's.
[00:20:55] Speaker B: It's. That's what it's giving.
[00:20:59] Speaker A: It's giving.
Angie K. And Lisa, you gotta beware.
[00:21:05] Speaker B: Of friends who are not happy for you when you are succeeding.
That is messed up.
[00:21:12] Speaker A: That's. So when you feel like you have to hide your success from your best friend, it's not healthy. And I've been there. I have been there where I felt like I didn't want to necessarily share something because someone's going through a hard time. But it's like, if that's your friend, if that's your best friend, especially, you should be able to share the goods and the lows. Like, if I'm down bad and I'm just, like, going through it, and my best friend comes to me and it's like, oh, my God, this amazing thing happened to me. That's gonna lift me up, honey. That's gonna rocket me. I'm gonna be, like, activated. Like, oh, shit.
[00:21:56] Speaker B: Yeah, this amazing thing happened to us.
[00:21:58] Speaker A: Exactly. This is for us. I winning, you winning, bitch. Because I know you ain't going nowhere without me, period. You might. Day one. Since high school. Since high school, we're fucking writing, bitch. Period. And I just. I don't know. I feel like Portia has almost like. And we're. We're going to get into this, but another comparison I could even say is giving White Lotus. But we're going to get into that. We're going to get into that later. But I do feel like I love.
[00:22:28] Speaker B: A complex female friendship.
[00:22:30] Speaker A: Right? I know. I know.
[00:22:32] Speaker B: The background is storytelling for me.
[00:22:35] Speaker A: I am live. I'm living for Atlanta.
[00:22:37] Speaker B: I love Kelly. I feel like she. That scene with her and the sit down with.
[00:22:41] Speaker A: I was literally gonna say it was that. That, to me, is a perfect housewives scene. They came in hot, ready to cuss each other out and be like, you're a lowdown, dirty bitch. And by the end, they. They were laughing. She's like, you're my little pressure troll.
[00:22:59] Speaker B: She said, you a little troll?
[00:23:00] Speaker A: Yeah, you're my pressure troll. You put the pressure on. And she said, I. I long as I'm the pink one.
And I'm like, oh, my God. They. That's how you come around. You fucking hash that shit out. You go in you, and you keep it moving. Like, that was literally a perfect scene.
[00:23:18] Speaker B: You know, for example, harping on a simple, harmless comment that Kenya made in the premiere. Four episodes later, and you're still on about this engagement ring comment. Letting it simmer with this one. It's clear to me that Brit probably watched the show and just never liked Kenya. And as soon as she had any inclination of, like, some interaction with Kenya that was a little negative, she's like, oh, yeah. I feel like he doesn't even know that she, like, offended Brit to such a level. But also, we don't get Kenny's confessionals, which is frustrating. Just because, like, I want to see. I mean, it's just weird. It's like, at least show me some of the story.
[00:23:56] Speaker A: I mean, because it literally feels like we're only getting half the story because we're not hearing her POV at all. If she even knows who this fucking girl is, which, like you said, she probably does not. But it's still like, damn, we'll never know.
She did. Did you see there was some stuff about.
She posted on the story. She just said traitor on her Instagram story. Hashtag traitor. And before that, Portia posted a picture with Brit.
It was being offset.
Well, some people were like, is this her manifesting the traitors? But I think that, yeah, she felt some kind of way that Portia.
Portia picture with Brit.
[00:24:49] Speaker B: Well, Portia probably needs all the friends she can get because it seems like her and Shamia are not on good terms right now. Unless that's just something that they're, like, doing to keep some intrigue. But, I mean, we're only, what, three episodes in. Four. Three episodes in and already there's like, the beginning of a rift between Portia and Shamia. That Portia's mom was not helping.
[00:25:10] Speaker A: I mean, Ms. Diane, I'm like, girl, honestly, she's drop dead gorgeous, beautiful. But I immediately, whenever I see her, I think of when Cordell was at lunch with Peter and he was talking about Ms. Diane, who is Portia's mom. Eating pizza and chicken wings on his white furniture.
[00:25:32] Speaker B: Eating a large pepperoni pizza on my.
[00:25:34] Speaker A: On my white furniture in my master bedroom. Girl, that's actually so crazy.
[00:25:40] Speaker B: No, here's the thing, is that Ms. Diane wants Portia to marry a rich man so that.
[00:25:43] Speaker A: So she can chill.
[00:25:44] Speaker B: Could be taken care of, right?
[00:25:46] Speaker A: So she could be in the master bedroom, she's eating pizza and wings on a white furniture.
[00:25:51] Speaker B: Like, come on, girl. She's like, we really. We all thought Simon was the one. Like, girl, you did.
[00:25:59] Speaker A: Come on.
[00:26:00] Speaker B: After a week and a half, right.
[00:26:02] Speaker A: After your daughter took him from another man. That was her friend. Come on, be so for real.
[00:26:08] Speaker B: They spent so much money on that wedding.
[00:26:10] Speaker A: I know.
[00:26:12] Speaker B: They had a us, right? And an African one.
[00:26:16] Speaker A: Yeah. No, and so crazy.
[00:26:19] Speaker B: And then like two weeks later, they're like, oh, we out of money. I'm like, I kind of don't feel bad for you, to be honest.
[00:26:25] Speaker A: No.
[00:26:26] Speaker B: Like, you're not really like a victim. You kind of are just like.
[00:26:29] Speaker A: It's something called karma. It's.
[00:26:32] Speaker B: Yeah, it's like, girl, you married a man for the money, right?
[00:26:37] Speaker A: Period, Dot.
[00:26:38] Speaker B: And that's why you met someone who was putting up, you know, fake dollar signs to try to get your attention. And you fell for it because you are not looking for substance.
[00:26:48] Speaker A: And she's lucky to have a friend like Shamia and Drew. I mean, Drew is.
I. I don't even gotta waste my breath. I just.
[00:26:59] Speaker B: I. The fact that Drew is like a seasoned housewife is kind of hilarious to me. I'm like, why did that even happen?
[00:27:05] Speaker A: I don't. I don't know.
[00:27:07] Speaker B: She survived like, three cash.
[00:27:10] Speaker A: Yeah, she's someone who I think is there for the check. And I mean, she shares a lot, but sometimes she shares too much or not enough. She. She shares things in half truths. And I'm like, I would rather you just be like a Phaedra or Garcelle and just share a little bit. Then share some bullshit, because I just don't believe anything that she is bringing to the show.
[00:27:42] Speaker B: Yeah, it's like you just kind of want to, you know, like, promote your music at this point is what it's giving.
[00:27:47] Speaker A: She's giving. Bet plus.
[00:27:49] Speaker B: See, I didn't say that either.
[00:27:55] Speaker A: Oh, my God. We are eating good, honey. We are eating good. Speaking of eating good, girl, if you have not dived into the incest pool of White Lotus, then again, you're going to want to skip forward because we are definitely dishing about this incest buffet. Honey.
[00:28:19] Speaker B: I feel like this last episode, the one that was on Sunday, like the week before that, like the full moon party.
[00:28:27] Speaker A: Yes.
[00:28:28] Speaker B: Was like kind of like a mid season climax. And then this most recent episode kind of like reset everything and is now building to another climax, which is going to be this, like, party that Greg, Gary, Glenn is having.
[00:28:42] Speaker A: Like, Gary Glen Ross.
[00:28:44] Speaker B: Glen Ross Glenn. Uncle Rico from Napoleon Dynamite.
It is.
[00:28:50] Speaker A: Oh, my God. That's who he is.
Okay, because I forgot. Thank you for reminding me that that's fucking Uncle Rico from the fuck. That's so. Wow, wow, wow.
[00:29:04] Speaker B: I know. He's so different in this.
[00:29:08] Speaker A: What Rights. We love range. We love range, honey.
[00:29:12] Speaker B: But this episode was kind of like a falling, a fallout. Picking up the pieces from what happened on the Full moon party. The brothers are piecing together that they had sex or some sort of incestuous threesome. I mean, the dad is daydreaming about.
[00:29:30] Speaker A: Shooting everybody, as if it wasn't uncomfortable enough.
But to, like, learn about this while watching them relive it, like the brothers, that really I can't even wrap my head about, because I do. Something happened, obviously, like, him waking up and like, his brother just naked next to him. I'm like, they either full on fucked. I was literally about to say, I noticed that they were wearing. I was like, not him putting on his pants. Like, oh, my God, this is like a messy walk of shame.
[00:30:12] Speaker B: I know. How did he even fit in those little Twinkie shorts anyway?
[00:30:15] Speaker A: I mean, it was tight. He was popping out. It was so interesting to me that the entire dynamic leading up to this point, because Saxon has been. He's such a chad, you know? Like, he's just trying to steer the ship, drive the boat, and, like, make Lachlan do certain things and give him the truth about life.
[00:30:42] Speaker B: He's trying to steamroll.
[00:30:43] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah, for sure. And to see that dynamic shift in such a way, like Lachlan being like, one day, I'm going to control you.
[00:30:53] Speaker B: He was. Yeah, you're gonna have sex. He was. He was doing a good job. Yeah.
[00:30:59] Speaker A: And like, for you, he's like, I'm gonna, like, basically dominate you one day. And I don't know if Again, you know, I love my theories, and, you.
[00:31:12] Speaker B: Know, I have my twinks.
[00:31:13] Speaker A: I. Girl, I know Chicago doubts, but I have a theory that he may not have even taken the drug, because we know he's a sleight of hand. He's a magician. He could have just been like. And done that on purpose. And maybe he drank a lot and he was hungover, but he did that just to, you know, fuck with Saxon. Because up until him being at the pool with Chelsea and her being like, rick's my soulmate. I would never do anything with you because you're soulless. Once he found out about, like, the incest and Chloe being like, you've never been in a threesome. What about last night? Like, your brother jacked you off. That was the first time he had, like, a soul, because you could see something. His facade fully cracking and him, like, showing a real vulnerability and, like, being a human being.
[00:32:14] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:32:14] Speaker A: And.
[00:32:16] Speaker B: Well, because here's the thing.
[00:32:17] Speaker A: I mean, that's the way to do it.
[00:32:19] Speaker B: Not everyone. Not everyone is incestuous, obviously, but everyone is a little bit gay. So I think he was. You know, I think that was more. It was like, you know, half the fact that it was his brother and half the fact that it was just a guy in general, that he was like, oh, but, you know, what does that mean about me? And I think that's such a good writing from Mike White to kind of have this moment, because, I don't know, it's like some guys would just, like, spiral when it comes to the idea of thinking that they might be at all, like, queer or have any sort of inclination towards that.
[00:32:53] Speaker A: Yeah. And then you have the Sam Rockwell of it all.
[00:32:56] Speaker B: Oh, my God.
[00:32:57] Speaker A: Being like, and what did I say? And what did I say? I knew there was going to be a white man becoming a Asian woman. I called that on this podcast. I thought it was going to be Rick's father, maybe, but who knew it would be? It still could be.
[00:33:13] Speaker B: It still could be. But at this point, I'm not writing off any possibilities, honey.
[00:33:18] Speaker A: Oh, my God. The Sarah Rockwell of it all. Like, that fucking monologue. I was like, give this man the Emmy now. The way he devoured Chomp Chomp, fucking digested it, and then shat in the mother toilet with that fucking monologue. It was legendary. I hope someone gets into Juilliard from doing that monologue. Okay. Oh, my God, that scene was so amazing. And I loved Walton's reaction to it as well. Just, like, lots of process.
I don't even know what To. To.
To say to that, because, I mean, what do you say to that slay?
Kudos for spilling that tea, mama.
Like, you know, it's kind of crazy.
[00:34:11] Speaker B: Because there's, like, a storyline about Walton Goggins, like, wanting to, like, avenge his father's death and go on this, like, you know, taken revenge style, you know, Inigo Montoya moment. But, like, somehow I'm, like, more interested in, like, the subtleties of, like, female friendship dynamics that's going on at the other side of the hotel.
[00:34:31] Speaker A: A thousand percent.
[00:34:34] Speaker B: No, literally, three women, like, have small, like, dynamic issues.
[00:34:39] Speaker A: No, literally, I. As much as I love him and his character, without him being with Chelsea, I'm like, you go do that. Like, the Sarah Brockwell moment was everything.
[00:34:52] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:34:52] Speaker A: Outside of that, I am like, let's get back to the White Lotus, because that's where shit is happening right now. And to get into the trio of friends. I mean, what a fucking dynamic that is. Oh, my God, the layers, they've just.
[00:35:11] Speaker B: Been building it, building it, and it's like the payoff of all that building that they've done. It's.
[00:35:18] Speaker A: It's the subtleties. It's the subtleties for me that really, like, do something to me because it's just so layered. Like, you really feel like, you know, these people. Like, you're a bird's eye view.
[00:35:35] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:35:35] Speaker A: You can feel the tension and the.
[00:35:39] Speaker B: The history.
[00:35:40] Speaker A: The history of them. Because, like, Valentin is irrelevant to that. Right. Like, no one is emotionally connected to him. Like, it's more so that Jacqueline has made it. Her entire mission of this trip pretty much is getting Laurie to fuck him. Right. And for Laurie to have this how Stella got your groove back moment on their trip, and for Jacqueline to go and sleep with him behind everyone's back, it just proves that Jacqueline is not authentic at all. Like, she doesn't give a fuck. She's not a girl's girl, and she doesn't give a fuck about Lori's groove or her getting it back. That's just selfish to say that I'm that type of friend to say that I'm. Oh, yeah, go do it. But, like, you don't actually give a fuck about what I do.
[00:36:38] Speaker B: People got gossip about me my whole life, and to have my friends gossip, I was like, weren't you just calling her a drunk and alcoholic? And you were calling Kate, you know, a Trump supporter, which is just a fact.
You've been doing all this gossiping yourself.
[00:36:53] Speaker A: Right?
[00:36:54] Speaker B: See, I mean, she has never established what kind of show that Jacqueline was on. But I think they. She's on some sort of scripted show is what they've tried to say. Because they talk about her like, going to set and everything, but she just gives me such like, real housewife. Because, like, one thing a real housewife loves to do is frame a narrative. Narrative to be the ultimate wronged party victim. And like, the way that, the way that you can like, somehow go from like sleeping with this guy that you were trying to set your friend up with to like being the victim somehow because she's upset is a matrix level of gymnastics.
[00:37:33] Speaker A: It's so funny. Like, I was thinking about it and I was like, chelsea and Chloe have developed such a closeness and emotional depth to each other in six days.
[00:37:44] Speaker B: Real friendship.
[00:37:45] Speaker A: Real friendship. More than these women that have known each other forever. You know what I mean? Like that, like their entire lives. That just really tells you exactly where they are in their relationships. Like, they're. It's more so self serving to be like, oh, this is my oldest friend. Yeah, we're here together just to be able to say that. But it's like they don't really care about what's going on in their lives and their happiness. It's going back to what we were saying about Portia and Shamia. You know, it's like, just because you've had this history with someone and you've been through stuff. Like, I don't think Jacqueline, when she was getting these big movie contracts or whatever her TV show, that Kate and Laurie were the first people that she was calling, you know?
[00:38:38] Speaker B: Yeah, it was. I am like, very fascinated by the choice of having it be that Jacqueline is in California, Laurie's in New York, and Kate is in Austin, which is like literally right in the middle of the both of them. And that's kind of the dynamic that they have. And it's like even though they're all on different parts of the country and like they have such little in common, they're still the same people that they were when they first met each other. Like, now that they've gone in such different paths to come back and still have that same dynamic where it's like Jacqueline here, Laura here, and Kate right in the middle being kind of like fake, phony type.
Very interesting.
[00:39:15] Speaker A: Yeah. Yeah. And I think they even go back. I feel like they were talking about when they were like, little, little. Or maybe they're just saying like, when we were kids, I don't know.
[00:39:25] Speaker B: But it was at least 10th grade because that's what Lori said.
[00:39:29] Speaker A: Yes, yes. Like, it's it's some high school, like, deep seated history. And Kate, AKA Leslie Bibbs character, like, telling Laurie about Jacqueline and Valentine and expecting her to not confront Jacqueline and protect her. I'm like, why did you even tell her at all?
[00:39:51] Speaker B: That was actually great.
[00:39:52] Speaker A: That actually makes her worse. So true.
[00:39:54] Speaker B: You better have Maya back when it's time for this confrontation. And then for you to throw that rock and hide your hands.
[00:40:01] Speaker A: Ooh, yeah. Talk about housewives. That was so, so catty. And it's like, there's no. There's no emotional depth in their characters. Like Jacqueline said, hey, guys, I'm having a hard time. Like, I cannot keep this young man. I got this young husband.
[00:40:19] Speaker B: Exactly. They're afraid to be vulnerable, and they're afraid to be real with each other.
[00:40:22] Speaker A: Mm. Because they. There's like, a baseline level of closeness that they have with each other versus, like, actually being able to share and be real. And you see it. You see it. And I think even, like, the passive aggressiveness that Laurie is bringing, it's like, I feel like she does that to Jacqueline because Jacqueline is keeping her around to be grounded without actually being grounded. So in a way, I understand why Lori is being as petty as she is.
[00:41:02] Speaker B: Yeah. But also, like, Lori does know, like, kind of need to get her together a little bit.
[00:41:06] Speaker A: Yeah. But I don't know.
[00:41:07] Speaker B: It's like, you snooze, you lose, sister. I tried to set you up with this, man.
[00:41:11] Speaker A: No. What do you mean?
[00:41:13] Speaker B: You snooze, you lose as soon as you lose.
[00:41:15] Speaker A: No, see, you're nasty because that's up. I've been, Lori, in situations like that, and I hate. Don't play in my face. It's. It's malicious and conniving.
I don't like that.
[00:41:29] Speaker B: Are you gonna eat that?
[00:41:31] Speaker A: Order some takeout, Go somewhere else to eat. There's literally.
They get the other one. Get. Get the.
[00:41:40] Speaker B: Now you know, I don't want the other one.
[00:41:42] Speaker A: Well, then I don't know what to tell you because I. I called dibs.
[00:41:47] Speaker B: Did you? You said you didn't want it. You said, oh, I don't want.
[00:41:50] Speaker A: And you are. Got a whole ass husband, bitch. Like, what the hell? See, I just. I don't know. I just can't deal with. Oh, it's just. It's so triggering watching them, because I have.
[00:42:02] Speaker B: Oh, I know. It's like, where is it gonna go? It's like, are they gonna murder each other or are they gonna, like, end being, like, having resolved their issues? Like, it's kind of crazy like that. It could be any sort. I don't know.
[00:42:13] Speaker A: I feel like something's gonna get leaked.
[00:42:15] Speaker B: And you think Laura's.
[00:42:17] Speaker A: I think. No, I think something's going to get leaked. I don't know if it's going to be the Russians or it's going to be their shady. I could totally see Lori calling TMZ and being like, saw Jacqueline in Thailand with her butler at the White Lotus and it blowing up her shit. And I honestly would be like, period, sis.
[00:42:39] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:42:40] Speaker A: I'd be like, hell, yeah. That. I would live for that.
Okay, what geeked you out more? Belinda and Pornchai hooking up and her son walking in on them. Or Guy Talk finally getting his gun back?
[00:42:57] Speaker B: Probably the. The Linda and Porn Chai. Because first of all, I was like, yes, Melinda, I know.
[00:43:03] Speaker A: And that's Glengarry Glen Ross bringing them together. Because if she was not as scared, she probably wouldn't have invited him to spend the night. Between that and the lizard in her room, which, by the way, let me just say, lizards in Thailand are a bad omen. And there were a lot of lizards. I know.
[00:43:26] Speaker B: She's been seeing nothing but lizards all season.
[00:43:28] Speaker A: Honey. I'm just saying. Let me just put that out there.
[00:43:32] Speaker B: I know what's kind of like her son showing up is like. I don't know. It's alarming because it's like, oh, shit. Like, we're getting really close to that, you know, beginning scene.
[00:43:40] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:43:41] Speaker B: And, like, the tension between her and Gary Uncle Rico is, like, very stressful. And now he's, like, inviting her to this party.
And I think that the hotel manager guy, like, the French guy. I want to say he's French.
[00:43:58] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:43:59] Speaker B: Like Nerdy Fabian. Yeah. Shady Sadie and is what I'm calling him because he was. Oh, don't worry about it. He was like, oh, we shouldn't talk about other guests. But I'm like, he's not a guest.
[00:44:11] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:44:12] Speaker B: He doesn't live at the hotel. He lives somewhere else.
[00:44:15] Speaker A: Oh, I am like, that is giving major red flag.
[00:44:21] Speaker B: He bought his silence kind of thing.
[00:44:23] Speaker A: Yeah. Like, he knows that he's up to some shady shit, but he also knows that he's got a lot of money and a lot of power. So he's not saying anything. He's minding his business, and it's sus as hell.
[00:44:37] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:44:37] Speaker A: But I am so happy that Guy Talk got that gun back, because that was so stressful. Just knowing. And Tim having these crazy dreams and hallucinations about fucking killing himself. Killing his Wife like, oh, girl, put it down.
[00:44:55] Speaker B: Oh, by the way, I didn't even mention this. I find Piper annoying.
[00:45:00] Speaker A: You do?
[00:45:00] Speaker B: It just seems like such like a privileged girl thing to be, like, I'm gonna move to Thailand and, like, explore myself.
[00:45:08] Speaker A: And I just want to live like.
[00:45:09] Speaker B: A monastic life, like, without my earthly possessions. It's like, yeah, because you know you'll be fine when you come back. T. It's giving, like, the girl who studied abroad and, like, launch it up about it.
[00:45:22] Speaker A: You're so right.
[00:45:24] Speaker B: Like, literally your family to this, like, five star resort, but act like, like, everyone's against you all the time.
[00:45:32] Speaker A: Well, and that's why her mother said, why don't you stay here overnight? And if you still want to stay here, then I'll let you stay. Because I guarantee your ass is not going to want to stay. Yeah, after you spend the night.
[00:45:44] Speaker B: Well, I have a feeling the Rattler family is not returning to America. And if they are, it's going to be in a body bag.
Things are not looking up for the rat lists. Best case scenario, they stay in Thailand and dodge the FBI. Worst case scenario, they drink a poison smoothie, get shot in the head, yada, yada, yada. Because they keep talking about the poison fruit.
[00:46:11] Speaker A: Well, that's so.
Excuse me.
[00:46:15] Speaker B: I think that's why you've got something to say.
Drink some water. Because he's about to hit you with a hot take. Cool down first because what's going to come out of her mouth is too fire lubricating.
[00:46:28] Speaker A: I can't stand you.
We didn't have.
Like I said, like I said, I love my theories. And I do think that something's happening with that Ratliff family and one of them's gonna accidentally kill each other. In one of my group chats about White Lotus, we were talking about.
[00:46:55] Speaker B: One of my group chats about White Lotus is crazy.
[00:46:57] Speaker A: Yeah. Because y'all know I love a theory and I love talking about this shit all day, every day. And one of the theories is Lachlan will be the one who dies. The dad, Timothy Ratliff, will make a shake for himself with the poison fruit Oslonga mentioned in episode one. Guy Talk will get the gun back so he can use it. So he can't use it to off himself. Since Victoria keeps saying he's acting out of the ordinary, he's going to make the shake, which he hasn't done yet, he will then leave it out on the counter. And because he will be called away for something and Lachlan will think Saxon Made it for him and drink it.
And I said, oh, bitch, that's fucking tea.
[00:47:45] Speaker B: You don't mention a poison fruit if it's not going to come back a thousand percent. Check out poison fruit.
[00:47:51] Speaker A: Of course. Absolutely. You're not going to drop an Easter egg like that and not bring that shit back. Someone's dying by that fruit, period.
[00:47:59] Speaker B: Dot, same thing you said with the. With the sleight of hand. It's like you don't just mention that someone does sleight of hand if they're not going to be doing a major sleight of hand in the future.
[00:48:09] Speaker A: Very that very that. Another theory is that monkeys are going to shoot Lachlan in the pool and Saxon will be. Will have the blender going and not hear it. And Piper will walk in and think Saxton did it and shoot him. And then mom Victoria will drink the poison smoothie completely accidentally and dad will shoot himself to cover up for Piper. And Piper will continue to complete the medicated mom karmic cycle. And I said, Bitch, that's T2.
[00:48:41] Speaker B: Normally I would say that sounds absurd, but at this point, girl, at this.
[00:48:46] Speaker A: Point, brothers are jerking each other off.
[00:48:48] Speaker B: The monkeys people are squad.
Not the homophobic monkeys. That's crazy. Not the biphobic monkeys.
[00:48:58] Speaker A: The monkey said your non binary is not valid.
[00:49:03] Speaker B: Not swing on twink crime. Oh, my God, we only got two.
[00:49:08] Speaker A: Episodes left, so you know it's about to be crazy.
[00:49:13] Speaker B: Oh, my gosh.
[00:49:15] Speaker A: So here for it. Another thing I'm here for. Let's talk about Ms. Ma'am Mayhem.
[00:49:22] Speaker B: I was about to start singing and I was like, are you allowed to sing, like music?
[00:49:27] Speaker A: Or is it licensed Amita's license? But I don't know if we're there yet to where Lady Gaga is going to be like, hey, can you take that out?
I heard what you did and I didn't like it. So pay me my money or cut it out.
[00:49:42] Speaker B: Okay, Gaga. Sorry, Gaga.
[00:49:45] Speaker A: Sorry, Mother monster, but I just want.
[00:49:48] Speaker B: To sing your album because I love it so much.
[00:49:50] Speaker A: I love it.
[00:49:51] Speaker B: It is so good. I got a tattoo recently and they played just like the whole album. It was pretty much the exact. Okay, flex the tattoo I got.
And you're mad.
[00:50:03] Speaker A: Yeah, and I am. Because I want one.
[00:50:06] Speaker B: Well, then go get one. Then go get one.
[00:50:08] Speaker A: Okay, I will. And maybe I will get another one then.
[00:50:12] Speaker B: You should. Another. Another one. So you have them?
[00:50:15] Speaker A: I have. Of course I do.
[00:50:17] Speaker B: See this. When friends aren't happy for you. When friends are bitter and jealous and nasty at your success, watch out okay, I'm a killer. Exactly.
Nasty. Oh, my gosh.
[00:50:34] Speaker A: I'm living for this album.
[00:50:35] Speaker B: It's so good.
[00:50:36] Speaker A: It's so good.
[00:50:37] Speaker B: There's no skips. It's like, every day or other day, it's like, I think it's gonna be a vanish into you day. And then, like, right now, it's love drug. And then it'll be like zombie boy again. I'm like, I just have to, like, give each song, like, its own, like, few days to digest. It was the same thing with this was Renaissance. Way back when Renaissance was out, another album that perfect from start to finish was, like, for, like, a month, like, these three were, like, my songs. And then the next month, it was like, these three are my songs. Like, it's just. I was, like, already imagining myself, like, my Spotify wrapped being like, mayhem. Mayhem. Mayhem. And, like, just, like, listening to these songs in the future. I'm like, I. I just don't even see these getting old. Like, some albums, they come out and you're like, oh, this is so good. This is so good. This is so good. And a week later, you realize, like, you haven't listened to them in a minute.
[00:51:25] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:51:26] Speaker B: But mayhem, it just. It just keeps growing on me.
[00:51:29] Speaker A: And it's similar to Renaissance in the way of. It just flows so perfectly. Like, every single. It's such an arc and storyline, and every song, like, has its purpose, and it really. I'm so obsessed with it. Like you said, it changes every day. Like, what my favorite songs are. Like, I'd say today, it's like, perfect. Celebrity, Zombie Boy and abracadabra. Like, that's where I'm at today.
[00:52:02] Speaker B: And she just announced the tour, which, honestly, the announcement was kind of bizarre. She was like, yeah, by the way, I think I want to do a tour.
[00:52:09] Speaker A: It was very. I think it's because, like, she.
[00:52:12] Speaker B: She was like, we put this together in two weeks. I was like, oh, my God.
[00:52:16] Speaker A: Yeah. Because she wasn't supposed to go on tour yet, but everyone's been so down for it that she's like, okay, I'm just gonna do a little one. It's not a full, full tour. It's just, like, the cities that I ride for the most. And of course, Chicago has two days, so I'm gonna be in that bitch. Because I've literally never missed a Lady Gaga concert.
[00:52:36] Speaker B: I have seen every era. I've seen Lady Gaga concert.
[00:52:39] Speaker A: I've seen every era. And I am. I love her artistry. I love her.
[00:52:45] Speaker B: She's such an entertainer.
[00:52:47] Speaker A: She really is her show.
[00:52:48] Speaker B: And the mic is always on.
[00:52:50] Speaker A: Always. It's such an experience. It's such a story that she's telling. And her POV is so amazing, and I love that she's so happy and her music reflects that, and she's so secure in her artistry. And the girls tried to say. An interviewer was like, the kids are saying, your. Your album's giving reheated nachos. And she said, bitch, I invented the nachos. I fucking handcrafted the tortilla chips. I picked the avocado from my garden.
I. I did the whole thing. You know what I mean? Yeah, I. I love it. I just love it.
[00:53:29] Speaker B: People kept saying, like, oh, she's so back. And I say, she never left.
[00:53:33] Speaker A: She never left. She never left.
[00:53:36] Speaker B: As one of the only five people in the world that likes Joanne, that girl never left.
[00:53:42] Speaker A: Girl, you got one right here. Take my hand.
We also got a Miley drop. She's going to be dropping a new album. And I said, that's where those eyebrows went. Honey, I'm so excited for some new Miley music.
[00:54:01] Speaker B: Miley is another one that, like, she's so famous, but I feel like her music is somehow still underappreciated at the same time.
[00:54:09] Speaker A: Oh, totally. She just got her first Grammy.
[00:54:12] Speaker B: Like, Flowers, like, biggest song, like, blah, blah. But, like, I feel like they didn't even even make any of the other songs on the album, like, singles. And some of those songs are so incredible.
[00:54:23] Speaker A: Yeah. Oh, for sure.
[00:54:25] Speaker B: Oh, like Handstand, like Violet Chemistry.
[00:54:30] Speaker A: Yeah.
She's everything.
[00:54:33] Speaker B: She's so next level.
[00:54:35] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:54:35] Speaker B: Like, I liked Dead Pets. I liked Plastic Hearts.
[00:54:39] Speaker A: Oh, I love Plastic Hearts. Oh, my gosh.
[00:54:41] Speaker B: I loved Younger now, like, I was there for all of it. And I'm there for this one, too.
[00:54:49] Speaker A: I'm there for it. I'm seated and ready. I have not listened to Selena's new album with Benny, I'll Be Transparent. I just haven't had time.
[00:54:58] Speaker B: She's not at the top of my list.
[00:55:01] Speaker A: No. I mean, she does have some bankers, but she. Yeah, she's. I. I haven't gone out of my way to listen to Selena's music in quite a long time. And after the entire Emilia Perez situation, I will have to, like, take a little bit and I'll. I'll definitely give it a listen. I. Maybe we'll get into it next week. If I.
If I fucking feel like it.
Fucking feel like it. Okay. That's my opinion, and that's my opinion. And you know what? I Feel like. I feel like eating. So let's do our appetizers, main course and desserts.
[00:55:43] Speaker B: Ooh, Should I go first?
[00:55:46] Speaker A: Ladies first.
[00:55:48] Speaker B: I'm going to go age before beauty.
[00:55:53] Speaker A: And everyone, that's a wrap on Matt S. The producer. Thank you so much, Matt. God bless your heart. Thank you so much. Take care. Bye. Bye.
[00:56:06] Speaker B: Can I get a to go plate?
[00:56:09] Speaker A: You can get a heavy duty plate with a big old pile of shit that just came out your mouth. How about that?
[00:56:18] Speaker B: One of those plastic dishes. It's like bending from under the pressure of how much food's on it.
[00:56:23] Speaker A: Y.
No, go ahead, girl. Go ahead. What's your. What's your meal for today?
[00:56:29] Speaker B: Okay, so my appetizer is definitely this Beverly Hills reunion drama. I just finished watching the finale before we were dishing, and I'm very intrigued by all this. Like, apparently something might go down between Bose and Garcelle at the reunion. And I am very intrigued to see. I am wanting to see. Bo is like, more in the drama. I think she's really cemented herself as, like, part of that cast within just one season.
She's stunning. She serves looks, and I'm ready for her to start giving drama. And it seems like so far she's not had, like, a very serious argument. But when it comes to the little quick tete a tets, no one is seeing her. So I'm kind of ready for it. Like, when Sutton was like. There's a clip of Sutton being like, you came on strong. She goes, well, I am strong, so. Oh, ready with it. My main course is Yellowjackets Season 3.
I need you to understand how obsessed with this show I am. Like, when I'm not watching yellow jackets, I'm watching, like, theories about yellow jackets. This season is so crazy. They are just about to be done with the summer, and they're about to head into their second winter in the wilderness. And the last two episodes change things so radically that I am, like, dying for the next episode. And I just like watching all these theories about the show. And there's all this Greek mythology sort of overtones and tie ins. They did kill off all of my favorite characters, but honestly, it's the kind of show where I think things are about to get so much worse that maybe it's for the best because it's getting crazy and it seems like the adult timeline. We're about to see Shauna revert into wilderness. Shauna. We're seeing Taissa reverting into other Ty. Oh, my God. It's like half the time it's, like, not really well written, but the other half of the time, it is so inconceivable as a show. And then talking about how much I love complicated female dynamics in shows, that is what the show is to its sea. I would give them every award if I could because they just bring so much life to these characters. And the characters feel so, like, real and grounded. Like, none of them feel, like, one dimensional. Like the. Oh, you know, she's the nerdy one, she's the blank. Like, that's how they kind of started. But at this point, they're so developed and, like, what they've gone through in the wilderness has changed their character so much, and I just love it. And what is my dessert going to be?
Hmm. I think my dessert, I'm going to have a little bit of peach cobbler, because my dessert is the Real Housewives of Atlanta. I feel like we are definitely back. I'm loving Kelly. I'm loving Angela. Britt is tbd.
And, you know, I'll actually throw in the Married to Medicine reunion, too, since they aired back to back on Sundays and they're both in Atlanta. I don't know. I'm just curious to see where that show's going to go. So that's my dessert. As that reunion continues, I'm feeding on peach cobweh.
[00:59:35] Speaker A: Oh, that's. That's a good little place.
[00:59:39] Speaker B: Delicious.
[00:59:40] Speaker A: Yes, honey, I love that. Okay, well, my meal is a little all over the place. Per usual. We got mostly scripted for the meal, so my appetizer is a little light dip in the scripted. This show called Adolescence, which is the furthest thing from light.
It is a very intense Netflix show, but I won't give too much away. I mean, the name says it all. It's about a young kid in England, and it is. So the main reason I watched it is because a lot of my filmmaker friends have been, like, nerding out over the show because it's all filmed in one take.
[01:00:35] Speaker B: Whoa.
[01:00:36] Speaker A: Yeah. So, I mean, it's like. It's like plays. It's four episodes.
[01:00:41] Speaker B: Yeah.
[01:00:42] Speaker A: And it's like four plays. You know, just the way that they were able to do it, actually watch.
[01:00:49] Speaker B: The setting and, like, the acting is just like.
[01:00:51] Speaker A: No, not even one setting. Oh, no, no. It's actually gaggy. There's a chase sequence at one point and I'm like, the fact that they did this in one take is fucking bonkers to me. Like, it is so cool. Like, the first few episodes were done are the second take and Then one of the last episodes is the 14th take.
[01:01:18] Speaker B: Wow.
[01:01:19] Speaker A: Which is so fucking cool and inspiring. And the main guy actually created it and wrote the show. Stephen Graham. He's a great English actor. And the main actor, the little boy who plays like the main adolescent, he is a revelation in this. This is his first big acting role. And I mean, he is so fucking good. And for context, for people, when you do watch it, or if you have watched it, his first day on set was with the third episode.
[01:01:56] Speaker B: Oh.
[01:01:57] Speaker A: Which is a very intense episode. But I think that that was a good way for him to get into it. But it's so incredible. So that is my appetizer.
[01:02:06] Speaker B: That's just your appetizer.
[01:02:07] Speaker A: That's just my appetizer. My main course is Severance. Oh, my God. I watched the finale of Severance and I feel some kind of way. I feel some kind of way. I feel pretty gutted.
I'm pretty upset. I'm glad we don't have to wait another three years for the next season. They have a lot of room that they can do so much. If y'all. I know a lot of you want me to talk about this and we can get into it eventually. I want to hear about people's theories and how y'all are feeling about the finale.
I was just so salty. I was actually in such a mood after watching the Severance finale that I was like, let me watch Adolescence because I know it's a bummer. So I watched those back to back because I was like, I'm already down. I might as well watch this fucking sad ass show.
But it ended up being, like, very creatively inspiring. And I'm like, yeah, I definitely want to toy around with some directing shit. Like they had drones and stuff. Anyway, Severance was very cool as well. There's. That was like a movie in itself. Like the finale. It's like an hour in 25 minutes. And it was such tea. And then I'm going to say my dessert is a little ditty that I saw yesterday called black bag with Mr. Michael Fassbender. My bae, for all my people who have known me, my day ones know how much I love Michael Fassbender and my best friend Emily's phone shout out. Emily, I am Tisha Fassbender, because I have been. That used to be my guy. Like before Timothy, before Andrew Garfield. Yes, that was me. Listeners, you can't see, but Matt is deep throating the microphone and I wish I was doing.
[01:04:05] Speaker B: I saw the gifts. I saw that movie.
[01:04:08] Speaker A: I saw Shame. And, honey, it's nothing to be ashamed of because he is hanging. But even before that, like, I saw him in a movie, Fish Tank, a long time ago, and I was literally was like, so obsessed with him since then. And then he played Magneto. That's bae. But he's so bad. He hasn't been in anything in quite some time. Because he's been raising his baby. I wish. No, he's been in Alicia.
Yeah. And their little baby or whatever. And another reason why I was so into him is because he used to only date black women. And I was like, oh, my God, there's the chance, you know, my delusional ass. I was like, okay, so he only dates black women. That's saying something for me, right? Okay. Yes. And Cate Blanchett. It is such a fun, good movie. And my friend Deb, who I saw it with, like, she said the perfect thing. So many TV shows and other movies want to make what Black Bag did. And they spend so much time, like, you'll watch a whole series of a show and not get anything close to what Black bag gave in 90 minutes. It's 90 minutes. It is giving everything. The characters are developed. There's a great twist. Oh, my God, the actors are so great. The guy, the oh, fuck. From Bridgerton that left the first season because he was like, I'm a blow up.
[01:05:44] Speaker B: And then he fell off.
[01:05:46] Speaker A: Yes. Renee Jean Page is in it. Naomi Harris is in it. Tom Burke, like the girl from industry.
Marissa. Ebola girl.
[01:05:55] Speaker B: You ain't got to name the whole cast.
[01:05:56] Speaker A: No, I mean, that's pretty much it. Pierce Brosnan. I mean, that's literally it. It's such like a little ditty. But it was so sweet and delicious, and I really.
[01:06:08] Speaker B: That's why it's a good dessert.
[01:06:10] Speaker A: It's a good dessert because I really enjoyed just in and out, not wasting our time and such a great, great story. But I'm gonna give an honorable dessert mention because I had two Survivor. We'll get into Survivor next week because this season has been everything so far. The twists and turns, and I'm like.
[01:06:32] Speaker B: How is the merge gonna live up to this pre merge? Because usually it's like, oh, my God, right? Like sets up the merge to be interesting, but at this point, the pre merge is giving.
[01:06:41] Speaker A: No, it's so good. I'm living for the dynamics and the. The backstabbing and the plotting and the.
[01:06:49] Speaker B: Theming and all the mothers.
[01:06:51] Speaker A: Oh, so many mothers. And I love the. The gameplay in this season. I just feel like it's so good. And I love that it's not combative. It's coming from a place of respect.
[01:07:03] Speaker B: And I think the new era has finally, like, cemented itself as, like, it's kind of here to stay. And I think it's at least, like, it's found its footing. For sure.
[01:07:13] Speaker A: Yes.
[01:07:14] Speaker B: I think it's, like, a lot less of the nicey nicey stuff. Like, I think people are. There's still a lot of nicey nicey. Like, I think it was really sweet that they showed Mitch, who has, like, a speech impediment, and they kind of. I love him.
[01:07:25] Speaker A: And he met up with Phil, our friend of the pod, Philip from Dealer no Deal Island. They had. They spent some time together, and I was like, oh, that's so cute.
And that's my meal for this week.
[01:07:39] Speaker B: Delicious. You know what, Tish? I think you're in your black bag this week.
[01:07:43] Speaker A: Oh, wow, you ate that. Do you do comedy?
[01:07:49] Speaker B: You're in your telfar.
[01:07:51] Speaker A: This telfar is imported. No, but we have been eating so good. And we hope that y'all are fed after this episode. Thank you so much for listening and supporting. We will be back very soon for a whole new heaping helping of the dishwash. I'm Cyntisha. We'll see you soon. Bye.
