The 97th Oscars Recapalooza with Evan Mills and Conor Taylor

[00:00:00] Speaker A: Foreigners. Welcome back to a brand new episode of Dish with Tish. We survived awards season, and Adrien Brody is still talking, and he's talking about our very special guest. I am delighted to have the walking encyclopedia of film, Mr. Connor Taylor. [00:00:31] Speaker B: Hello. Hello, hello, hello. Very wonderful to be here. [00:00:35] Speaker A: We're so excited to have you and the IMD pro in the flesh, Mr. Evan Mills. [00:00:42] Speaker C: Hi. [00:00:42] Speaker B: Hi. [00:00:43] Speaker C: Thank you for having me. [00:00:45] Speaker A: Of course. Thank you guys so much for being on the Dish with Tish. Our Oscar recap. Oh, my God, y'all, we made it. We survived. [00:00:54] Speaker C: We did it. [00:00:55] Speaker B: Barely. [00:00:55] Speaker A: We did it barely. [00:00:57] Speaker C: Truly barely. [00:00:58] Speaker A: It was insane. So Sunday was the 97th Oscars officially closing out one of the most controversial awards seasons in years. Hollywood's biggest night, hosted by the one and only Conan O'Brien. It gave us a lot of touching tributes, a lot of obnoxious speeches that tested everyone's patience, and some musical numbers that were breathtaking. And also, it made me think, whose idea was this? We'll get to that. We're gonna start off. We're gonna start off with the good things, the pleasantries, and then we'll dive into, like, what made us wanna jump through the screen. [00:01:38] Speaker C: Yes. [00:01:39] Speaker A: Okay. [00:01:40] Speaker C: There's so many things. [00:01:41] Speaker A: I know. Let's start with Anora. Anora dominated five out of six, you guys. [00:01:48] Speaker C: And did we see this coming? [00:01:51] Speaker B: I think so. [00:01:52] Speaker C: Really? [00:01:53] Speaker B: Yeah. I mean, when you look at, like, all the industry awards, like the PGA and dga, it's like you usually can't bet against them. [00:02:01] Speaker C: True. [00:02:02] Speaker B: But then BAFTA comes in and is, you know. [00:02:04] Speaker A: Yeah. It's like, a part of me did think, in a way that there was some for Sean Baker. [00:02:13] Speaker C: Yes. [00:02:14] Speaker A: Mikey. I will say I was not really expecting that, but you can't. You can't really have, like, the movie win all of the awards and the title actor doesn't. [00:02:28] Speaker C: I was thinking that too, because I was like, oh, wow, Shawn Baker's winning everything. If Enora wins Best Picture and Mikey Madison doesn't win Best Actress, and the movie is literally called Anora. It would. It would. It would be weird. [00:02:40] Speaker A: It would be weird. [00:02:41] Speaker C: It would be weird. [00:02:42] Speaker A: Yeah. Yeah. [00:02:43] Speaker B: And I think going forward, it's just, like, such a good barometer when you do your predictions, it's like you look back to, like, Michelle Yeoh versus Cate Blanchett. It's like, always just go Best Picture. Always go with what you think is gonna win best picture. Frances McDormand versus Viola Davis. It's Nomadland. Go for Frances McDormand. [00:03:01] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:03:02] Speaker B: But it kind of broke my heart to see Demi Moore lose. I wouldn't have even voted for her. But just seeing her lose after winning so much was devastating. [00:03:12] Speaker A: Yeah. To like, be on that that entire time and then just. I mean, Mikey Madison really was, like, breaking in and just coming from behind. [00:03:24] Speaker C: And I did watch that clip, like, 20 times when they said Mikey Madison, because I just watched Demi Moore over and over again. And you see it in her breathing when they're like. And the Oscar goes to. You see, like, her chest get really tight. And, like, it's almost like you can see Demi being like, okay, it could be my name. And then when it isn't, it truly is like. And also, I was watching it on Hulu, so I know we're gonna get into that. [00:03:56] Speaker A: Oh, my God. [00:03:57] Speaker C: So I had to. [00:03:58] Speaker A: Yeah, that's. That's do better. [00:04:01] Speaker C: Hulu. [00:04:02] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:04:03] Speaker C: You were my favorite streaming site. [00:04:05] Speaker A: Oh, not anymore. Not after that. My heart broke for the Hulu people. Yeah. I think with Enora, like you were saying, Connor, when it's winning the pga, the wga, the dga, I literally had a brave rap D. G. Yeah, literally, like, when it wins all of those that won The Palme d'Or at con, like, when it does that. And I mean, that's also, like, a little prediction. I mean, that's, you know, look at parasites. And now Anora, that won that. And also, shout out to Neon. Neon raided the film production company that produced Anora. They've got Parasite now. Anora, they had Triangle of Sadness, Portrait. [00:05:04] Speaker B: Of a Lady on Fire. [00:05:05] Speaker A: Yes. Pat Spencer. Yeah, they're. They're killing it. And I mean, I. I want to say it's like the smallest movie to win best Picture. [00:05:15] Speaker C: Like, I can't trying to think of. Of, like, anything else that would have come close to that. [00:05:20] Speaker A: Yeah. I feel like it was the smallest one. [00:05:22] Speaker B: It just feels so independent, too, because it's Sean. And he's so. Not in a bad way, but loud about being like, independent film. Independent film. So you know that this movie was not backed. No. [00:05:35] Speaker A: He doesn't even have an agent. [00:05:37] Speaker C: That's wild. [00:05:38] Speaker A: He doesn't even. He's not even signed by anyone that he's like, long live independence. He said all the latest. [00:05:47] Speaker C: I know. [00:05:48] Speaker A: It's crazy. [00:05:49] Speaker C: Budget was so small. I feel like I could. [00:05:51] Speaker A: Six million. [00:05:51] Speaker C: Six million. I think the only movie that probably comes close is, like, Lord of the Rings, Return of the King, Right? [00:05:57] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:05:58] Speaker C: I'm kidding. [00:05:58] Speaker A: Yeah, I think that's. [00:06:00] Speaker B: But they used it really frugally. And no craft services. [00:06:04] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:06:06] Speaker A: Elijah, make your own sandwich. [00:06:08] Speaker C: Yeah. Peter Jackson was given 5 million and he said I can do it in four. [00:06:15] Speaker A: I mean, it really just feels like oppositional of where Hollywood is right now because it is so big picture, so many sequels and things like that. So to see this little indie baby snatch all of the awards is just so gaggy to me. [00:06:34] Speaker C: Yeah, well, and it's cool too to see like Sean Baker specifically. Right. Like his track record of films and then when he did like the Florida project with Willem Dafoe getting an Oscar nom and then Red Rocket kind of just quietly coming out and then with Anora if it felt like, you know, like the COVID of the movie with the firework in the background, it literally felt like that movie was like it like exploded. [00:06:59] Speaker A: Yeah, no, literally. And it just feels like it's pretty unusual in this decade long story of the Oscars, at least in our lifetime where Hollywood is rooting more for the small projects. And I think that that's really cool that it's the everything everywhere all at once. I mean, Oppenheimer was kind of like the outlier in the last 20 years, you know, if you really think about it. [00:07:32] Speaker C: Yeah. And I am. [00:07:35] Speaker A: We both perplexed. [00:07:37] Speaker C: We both just went into our Rolodex of like. Yeah, what, what's one. What did. [00:07:42] Speaker B: Lord of the Rings came to mind immediately. But we know that. We know our budget. [00:07:46] Speaker C: Right. [00:07:47] Speaker A: Another indie classic was Nomadland. [00:07:50] Speaker C: A cheap movie to make? [00:07:52] Speaker B: I think so. I don't know if it was this cheap. [00:07:54] Speaker A: I don't think it was this cheap. But yeah, yeah, because they at least had Frances McDormand and she got some money. She may not look like it, but she got some money. She got two Oscars and some money. [00:08:05] Speaker B: She's married to a Cohen brother and. [00:08:07] Speaker A: She'S married to a Cohen, so she's doing pretty well. Yeah. I just feel like there's been this massive increase in the membership of the academy. So it's become more international and I think that is also helping independent films be shown more. [00:08:24] Speaker B: Yeah, I mean, just since Roma kind of like started the conversation of is this foreign movie going to do it. We're almost at a point where we expect one to two movies not in English to be nominated every year, which, yeah, 10 years ago would have been crazy, a huge anomaly. And now it's, you know, you kind of look to your Cannes Film Festival, your Venice Film Festival to be like, what's going to be that movie that breaks through this year, which is exciting. I think it kind of opens up Oscar predicting in a way that, you know, when you first get into it as a kid, you kind of look to, like, biopics and World War II movies. Now it's like, well, it could also. [00:09:04] Speaker A: Be a movie about sex workers. [00:09:06] Speaker B: Yeah, sex workers. A French movie about a couple that's very French. It's like, that's on the table now, which is exciting. [00:09:16] Speaker A: I know. I love it. [00:09:17] Speaker C: And it's nice. It is nice to see. And also it is fun because when you see them in the best picture slot and the best international feature slot, you're like, well, give them that for sure. Right. Because if they could make it to the best picture slot, it's like, who's going to beat them in the international slot? [00:09:36] Speaker A: Right, right. And I also. [00:09:37] Speaker C: Parasite won both. Yeah, right. [00:09:40] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah, yeah. And I also feel like Anora is kind of like a rom com in a way. [00:09:47] Speaker B: Like. [00:09:47] Speaker A: Like, it leans more towards the drama, but there's some really funny parts. And we always say the Academy doesn't take comedy seriously. Whereas, like, I mean, we haven't seen, like, a comedy like a rom com since Annie Hall. [00:10:04] Speaker C: Yeah, yeah. [00:10:05] Speaker B: I mean, maybe Jennifer Lawrence for Silver Linings Playbook, but they don't touch it. [00:10:10] Speaker A: They don't touch it too much. Yeah. [00:10:12] Speaker C: Bridesmaids is like that. [00:10:13] Speaker A: That anomaly. [00:10:14] Speaker C: Anomaly of screenwriting. [00:10:17] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:10:17] Speaker C: And acting, which was. Should have been nominated for best picture, let's be honest. [00:10:22] Speaker A: I mean, t. But again, they don't take comedy seriously. [00:10:27] Speaker B: So, I mean, if we lived in a just world, Rose Byrne would have at least one Oscar on her show, probably for Spy. For Spy. [00:10:36] Speaker A: Or Bridesmaids. [00:10:37] Speaker C: Or Bridesmaids. [00:10:37] Speaker A: Honestly, like, oh, my God. So amazing. So that was really cool. Also, did any. Was anyone else puzzled that there was only two movie trailers shown the entire time? [00:10:50] Speaker C: Oh, like commercial. [00:10:53] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:10:53] Speaker C: Commercials. [00:10:54] Speaker A: Yeah. We had Ballerina and the amateur. That was it. I'm like, why are we not showing what's coming in 2025? I thought that was so weird. [00:11:03] Speaker B: The Oscars are too embarrassed to show movies that are being released in March. [00:11:07] Speaker C: True. Like, truly, they're like, we have Mickey 17. [00:11:11] Speaker A: And I mean, that's something. I mean, I guess this time last year, we had Dune two. We had Challengers. [00:11:20] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:11:21] Speaker A: So, I mean. [00:11:22] Speaker C: But also, sometimes I think of it in the sense of, like, you use the super bowl to do that for the people who don't see movies that often, who will then be like, oh, maybe I'll go see a movie. And then the Oscars are Like, everyone who's watching this already knows everything that's coming out already. [00:11:37] Speaker A: That's true. [00:11:38] Speaker C: You know, like, it would have been fun for them to. To release, like, trailers for, like, indie films at the Oscars. [00:11:46] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:11:46] Speaker C: You know? [00:11:47] Speaker A: Yeah. Like, Neon could have really used that time to be like, hey, we're here. So what did you think of the actual telecast? [00:11:57] Speaker B: I thought it was pretty decent. I don't know. I didn't love it. I think Conan started nervous, got his groove, and then kind of tacked on a. A musical number that didn't work for me. But I've talked to other people who are like, big Conan Die Hards, who are, like, best Oscar host ever. So I might be in the minority there. [00:12:18] Speaker A: Yeah, you're. You're in the Minority Report. Because I'm a. I'm a cone head. And I'm going to say he. He ate that. [00:12:27] Speaker B: He did do well. He did do well. [00:12:29] Speaker C: I'm. I feel like I'm right down the middle because. Because I was like, oh, that musical number came at the end. And I was like, that. That would have been at the beginning. But then how do you follow Cynthia and Ariana with a musical number by Conan? So I understand why it was separated. Yeah. Because it felt like Conan was done with his monologue, and then he was like, but by the way, here's a song. And I didn't hate the song, but I. I was like, this feels kind of out of place. Yeah, a little bit. [00:12:58] Speaker B: Wonder if that's, like, a bit you could have snuck in later in the show when it's been, like, dragging a. [00:13:04] Speaker A: Little bit, like two and a half hours. [00:13:07] Speaker B: To kind of like, split that up. But, you know, we had to make way for Lisa to sing James Bond. So we're, like. [00:13:16] Speaker A: I said, we're starting off. [00:13:17] Speaker B: I want to skip ahead. [00:13:17] Speaker C: Yes. [00:13:18] Speaker A: We're starting off positive. Okay. Yeah, I thought that Conan did. I love the opening with him coming out of Demi's carcass. Substance style. That was so funny. [00:13:30] Speaker B: Very Billy Crystal esque. [00:13:32] Speaker A: Yeah. And if you listen to Conan's podcast, after you listen to the Dish with Tish. Conan had Billy Crystal on his podcast, and they were talking about the Oscars, and I feel like he got a lot of inspo from Billy. And I feel like Conan did a really good job of, like, having that Jimmy Kimmel. These movies are crazy. Right. With the mix of, like, sprinkled in the Tina and Amy, like, y'all are fucking idiots. You know, it was a good mix. [00:14:03] Speaker C: Of the two, and it Was fun because, like, you know, Billy Crystal days, the days when it was, like, very sticky and, like, very, like, sketchy, I was expecting. And I don't. I still don't know if I was, like, pleasantly surprised or if I wanted more, but I thought, like, he was gonna go back into Demi's body, and all of a sudden he was gonna be, like, in the car with Anora. Like, you know, like, I thought it was gonna keep going into the different movies, and it would have been fun for me if throughout the night, he was in different movies. But I feel like that's. That's a shtick we've seen literally, by Billy Crystal, I think. And maybe Steve Martin, too. [00:14:41] Speaker A: Yes. [00:14:42] Speaker C: But, yeah, that I. So I liked seeing that part at the beginning, and I was like, maybe more. I want more. [00:14:49] Speaker A: I would have loved more, too. Yeah. I would have liked seeing him in Wicked. [00:14:53] Speaker C: Yes. [00:14:54] Speaker A: Like, Anora on a stripper pole. [00:14:57] Speaker C: If, like, in Wicked, he was the one who came up and was like, I heard you were her friend. And, like, Conan was behind her being like, yeah, that's what I heard, too. [00:15:05] Speaker B: Don't you dare speak another word against her. [00:15:10] Speaker A: But it felt like watching his shit, you know, like, it felt like a part of that. It was really, really fun. I thought he did a good job. [00:15:19] Speaker B: I do want to say my comment on it being decent had more to do with the overall telecast. I think once he hit his stride in his monologue, he was kind of chugging along. [00:15:29] Speaker A: Yes. Yes. [00:15:30] Speaker B: The Carla Sofia Gascon joke. Great. [00:15:33] Speaker A: So great. [00:15:33] Speaker B: Estonia jokes. Great. [00:15:35] Speaker A: Oh, my God. The Amazon jokes with the packages. That was. That took me out. That was really, really funny. [00:15:43] Speaker C: So good. [00:15:43] Speaker B: And I really liked how present he was throughout the show. Sometimes you see the host disappear, but I felt like he was coming back out, like, almost every commercial break. So I was pleased to see that. [00:15:52] Speaker A: Yeah. And John Lithgow, although. [00:15:55] Speaker C: And the fact that we could have used him a few times, they really. [00:16:01] Speaker A: Should have put the camera on him. [00:16:02] Speaker C: We should. If we're. If we're following through with a bit. We should. We should really follow through with the bit. [00:16:07] Speaker A: Yeah. Because a lot of people needed that Lithgow disappointed look. [00:16:13] Speaker C: Oh, yeah. [00:16:14] Speaker A: But again, we'll get into the negative. We're gonna. We're gonna get it. I loved the little dune worm and Adam Sandler bit. I thought that was funny. I mean, I grew up in the 90s, so of course I love Adam Sandler, but I thought that was funny. And the little Charlemagne. [00:16:34] Speaker C: Yeah, that was my favorite. [00:16:35] Speaker A: That was so great. And I love the Dunworm. That was so funny to me. [00:16:40] Speaker C: Yeah. And that they brought the dune worm back. Cause you had to. [00:16:43] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah. [00:16:45] Speaker B: I love a recurring bit during an awards show. It's dangerous. Cause if it flops and you bring it back, it's. But I like seeing the dune worm dressed in a tuxedo. [00:16:54] Speaker A: It was so fun. Like Kodan said, when you spend this money on a bit, you gotta do it twice. [00:17:00] Speaker C: Yeah. And why not have the Dune worm present in a. Right. And have it have, like, subtitles of it being like. [00:17:08] Speaker A: Yes. [00:17:09] Speaker C: And then have like the special effects goes to. [00:17:12] Speaker A: Right. Like, if it would have literally done that for special effects or sound, that. [00:17:16] Speaker C: Would have been for sound. [00:17:18] Speaker A: So, so fun. But it also would have been telling of who the winner was gonna be. If the dude worm is presenting the award, you kind of know what's gonna happen. True. [00:17:27] Speaker B: So let him present director. [00:17:29] Speaker C: Yes. [00:17:31] Speaker B: Dune famously snubbed. [00:17:33] Speaker A: So t. That is very Denis. I can't. Like, y'all need to put some respect on his name. [00:17:42] Speaker C: Was he nominated for part one? [00:17:44] Speaker B: No, I don't think so. [00:17:46] Speaker A: Or maybe he was. [00:17:48] Speaker B: That was with the year after Covid. [00:17:51] Speaker A: Yes. [00:17:52] Speaker C: Yeah. That was when Koda won, right? [00:17:55] Speaker A: Yeah, I think he was direct. I think he got it for Dune 1. [00:17:58] Speaker B: I want to say he got snubbed because you had, like, Steven Spielberg that year for west side Story. [00:18:05] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah. [00:18:06] Speaker B: Branagh. I think it was like a big surprise that year. [00:18:09] Speaker A: Well, I believe you. I'm not. Okay. Okay, listeners, if you guys think I know a lot, these two. If they say so. Okay. I'm not. [00:18:19] Speaker B: But all goes to say, Denis, I think his time's coming. [00:18:24] Speaker A: Yes. [00:18:24] Speaker C: Oh, for sure. [00:18:25] Speaker A: Yes. So I have. I have a theory. Hear me out on my theory. So there's a little project we've talked about. Lord of the Rings. I think so two towers won. Sound and visual effects. And then the third, obviously Return of the King swept. Do we think Dune Messiah could be that girl? [00:18:51] Speaker C: I don't know. I don't know enough about the Dune world, you know? And I don't know what Messiah is actually about or gonna be about. [00:19:00] Speaker A: I don't know if anyone does. [00:19:03] Speaker C: I will say I saw the first one. The whole time, I was, like, enjoying it. Didn't know what I was watching the second one. Halfway through the second one, I finally. It locked in. I think the first one, it just. I was stuck on that. The fact their names were Paul and Jessica. And it felt like a sci Fi world. So every time they would say Jessica, it Really bothered me. [00:19:23] Speaker B: It takes you out of it. [00:19:24] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:19:24] Speaker C: Yeah. And gaib. Come on, Jessica. [00:19:28] Speaker B: Yeah. I love that. That tweet of Lady Jessica in Dune Part two that just says, I've never seen a white woman want to be Muslim so bad with, like, all the text printed on her face. She's crazy in that. And I think it's fitting that her name's Jessica because she really is just a white woman going in with everybody, trying to act like they're serious. [00:19:58] Speaker A: That's very Jessica behavior. Very Jessica behavior. [00:20:02] Speaker C: But maybe Messiah. Well, let's. [00:20:03] Speaker B: Let's let you. [00:20:04] Speaker A: I don't know. That's my theory, that maybe it's gonna be the same pattern for the Dune series. That Dune Messiah will just come in and sweep. I don't know. [00:20:15] Speaker B: They could be. [00:20:16] Speaker A: Speaking of sweeps, Kieran. [00:20:19] Speaker C: Wow. [00:20:20] Speaker A: Wow. He is so good at seeming completely unprepared, yet so prepared. [00:20:26] Speaker C: Oh, yeah. [00:20:27] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:20:27] Speaker A: His speeches are so great. Oh, my God. [00:20:31] Speaker B: He did well. He charms the room. [00:20:33] Speaker A: Like, he's so charming. [00:20:35] Speaker B: You can't deny it. You might be a little bit tired of, like, the sweep continuing, but he gets up there and kind of makes you forget. [00:20:42] Speaker A: And I do appreciate that. All his speeches, usually when it's the same thing over and over, it's like, okay, they've said everything. But all of his award speeches, like, when he's won, have been so different and funny. I mean, shout out to his manager. I'm like, I need a manager like that. The way he loves that woman. I'm like, get you a manager. Like Kieran has. Okay. [00:21:05] Speaker C: When he said, what? Of 30 years? [00:21:07] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:21:10] Speaker C: That is like, his teen years. [00:21:12] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:21:13] Speaker C: Right. Because he's in his early 40s. [00:21:15] Speaker A: Yeah. Yeah. [00:21:17] Speaker C: Like, Igbe goes down, maybe. He was like. He's like, that's when I got my manager, because I was like, 2002. [00:21:22] Speaker A: Yeah. Another an underrated movie. [00:21:25] Speaker B: 1314 in that. I don't even know how old he. [00:21:27] Speaker A: Is in that, but, yeah, he's like a teenager. [00:21:30] Speaker B: Well, get Emma Stone producing your stuff. [00:21:34] Speaker A: Also that. [00:21:35] Speaker C: Truly. [00:21:35] Speaker B: I mean, also that. But try. [00:21:38] Speaker A: Yeah, right, right. I mean, hey, independent is in. Long live Independent. [00:21:42] Speaker C: Yeah. And Emma Stone's got two Oscars now. You know, she's top Bill. [00:21:46] Speaker A: I love her so much. Going back to Sean Baker, I mean, he gave three amazing speeches. His director speech definitely made my heart sing. He's been advocating so loudly and sincerely about the moviegoing experience, and he said the experience of movies is built on sharing it with people in a communal space that movie theaters are in. Danger and his mom took him to the movies and it was her birthday. I was like, that is so sweet. How cool is that? And I just love him being like, go to the movies. You know what I mean? Like, if you watch the Brutalists at home, you're probably like, why the hell is this movie nominated? Like, it's not the same thing. Like, I was at the movies every. Almost every day last week in preparation. Like, just seeing things again. First time seeing things. Like, it really is nothing like it. And Evan, I went to your house after I saw I'm Still Here and I was a mess. But I had this beautiful moment in the theater with this older couple, like, afterwards, and we were crying together and holding hands, and it was just like, so special. And I just think about all these amazing moments that you experience in the movie theater, and I'm like, I love. I love being at home. God knows I do. But there is nothing like going to the movies, truly. Like, during COVID I was like, oh, my God, like, Tenant. I was like, I want to watch this in the movie theater so fucking bad. [00:23:21] Speaker B: What was your guys's first movie back after Covid? [00:23:24] Speaker C: Oh, I know it. Mine was the Godzilla and Versus Kong. The Kong Godzilla movie. And we saw it in the biggest screen possible. We saw it in imax. And like, I remember because it had been like a year or something. And I remember truly, like, when the movie started, I was like, were the screens this big? Like, did the screens really used to be this big? Yeah, I think it's because I got used to watching my 50 inch TV that was like, right in front of me. And then I went and saw. Yeah, I think it was Godzilla. What is it called? King? Sea of Monsters or. [00:24:00] Speaker B: Yes, one of those. [00:24:02] Speaker A: Mine was Dune. Oh, right, yeah, Dune and imax. And I was like, oh, I'm back. I'm back. I felt like Nicole Kidman, even though. [00:24:12] Speaker C: I'm a Regal girly and I'm an amc. [00:24:15] Speaker A: I know. You both are. [00:24:16] Speaker B: We're a listers. [00:24:17] Speaker C: We're a listers. Wait, what was yours? [00:24:19] Speaker B: Oh, I actually got Covid in, like, December, and my sister and I thought we were scientists and we're like, well, we just got Covid. We can't get it again, so we can go to the movies. So we went and saw Promising Young Woman. [00:24:32] Speaker C: Ooh. [00:24:33] Speaker B: Which is kind of a wild one. [00:24:35] Speaker A: Yeah, I love that, though. [00:24:37] Speaker B: That was fun. [00:24:38] Speaker A: I love that. That is fun. So, yeah, I really appreciated that Zoe won for Emilia Perez. How do we feel about that? [00:24:49] Speaker B: I don't really? [00:24:50] Speaker C: We both went. [00:24:53] Speaker B: I hated the movie. I don't mind her. Her speech was overwrought. Her pronunciations are actually kind of funny every time. And we just kind of moved past it. I don't know about you. [00:25:10] Speaker C: Yeah, Yeah. I feel like it. Because of the movie. Her. Her. Her pronunciations got. I was like, zoe, I'd never remember you talking like this. [00:25:22] Speaker A: Right? Like, literally, I was. When I was watching, I was like, has she always been so, like, Boriqua? I was like, girl, what? I know. [00:25:31] Speaker C: I was like, maybe an Avatar. That's a made up place. [00:25:39] Speaker A: Yeah. I was like. And I appreciate her because she is a popcorn person. Like a popcorn actress. But I can't help but think of her doing that Nina Simone movie with the black face and the prosthetic nose. [00:25:55] Speaker B: It's just kind of a scar on her career. And, you know, Center Stage doesn't quite balance that. [00:26:02] Speaker A: I love Center Stage. [00:26:03] Speaker B: That blackface out. [00:26:04] Speaker C: I know. You can't even include Crossroads and get over it. Like, if you put those three movies together, it's like, Nina Simone's still there. [00:26:12] Speaker A: Right, Right. You can try to push it down. I just felt like with Emilia Perez winning for Zoe and original song, I'm like, neither of y'all are gonna talk about trans people at all. [00:26:29] Speaker B: Disgusting. [00:26:30] Speaker A: I mean, it was literally like, what? [00:26:34] Speaker C: Also winning. Yeah. I have. I have so much to say too. [00:26:40] Speaker A: What more positive things? [00:26:43] Speaker C: Well, I will say Zoe Saldana. I have always kind of loved her because of Get over it and cross Crossroads and Center Stage. And then she is in my favorite Mar franchise. So, like, I love Gamora. Like, I really do. Like, every time she's in something, I'm never like, oh, man. It's like that she shows up and guess who? And you're like, this is so, like, I love you. [00:27:06] Speaker A: Right. [00:27:07] Speaker C: Like, so it's. It was so hard for me to watch her, like, win for that movie, but I was like, like, you seem like someone who I want to, like, hang out with and give a hug to. [00:27:18] Speaker A: That's true for sure. Yeah. [00:27:20] Speaker B: I think her. Whatever media training they did post Carla, I think hurt her because not mentioning trans people, trying to fight back on people, mentioning how centered it is on, like, specifically Mexican culture, it just. She kind of put her foot in her mouth a lot that day in ways that I don't think she needed to. [00:27:40] Speaker A: I agree. Yeah. I feel like even the director, when they were doing the press after, they all were doubling down. [00:27:48] Speaker B: Yeah. I mean, her saying that the movie could have taken place anywhere. I'M like, did you watch them? I didn't like it. But, like, it's very much about. [00:27:56] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:27:56] Speaker B: A specific. [00:27:57] Speaker A: Well, I digress. [00:28:01] Speaker C: She said, the award is in my hand now. I'm going to say what I really. [00:28:05] Speaker A: Actually say, how I really feel. Yeah. Yeah. Speaking of saying how you really feel, I was so happy that no Other Land won for best documentary. That movie. We can't even watch it in the States. So, you know, it's. I'm just glad that they don't. They have more Oscars than they do distribution deals, which is crazy. But hopefully this will get the movie to be shown. [00:28:32] Speaker C: Mm. And who do we know who is a SAG member who could. Or who is an Academy member who can give us that dvd, you know? [00:28:39] Speaker A: Right, Right. [00:28:41] Speaker C: We gotta have a viewing party at someone's house. [00:28:43] Speaker A: Yes. Yes. Any SAG members listening, please hit up. [00:28:50] Speaker B: I know they. They were doing screenings at the Music Box. Maybe after. It's when they'll do another one. Because it is. It is, like, pretty vital viewing. And, you know, none of the actual celebrities were going to bring up Palestine, so, you know. [00:29:02] Speaker A: Right. [00:29:03] Speaker B: To have an actual Palestinian. [00:29:04] Speaker A: Yeah, I know. [00:29:06] Speaker B: So. [00:29:06] Speaker A: And it was the only speech that kind of really talked about real world issues. [00:29:13] Speaker C: Right. [00:29:14] Speaker A: You know, so I did apprec. That, too. I was actually looking at Selena Gomez and Samuel Jackson when they were, like, accepting the award, and it was kind of weird. It was weird, right? It was weird. Yeah. They were like. [00:29:27] Speaker C: He kept, like, leaning over to Selena saying something, and Selena was like, right, Yeah. [00:29:33] Speaker B: I do think she was trying to be like, yeah. [00:29:35] Speaker A: He had his hands in his pockets. Like, I think people were uncomfortable with how to, like, go about it. Except for Guy Pierce. Guy Pierce had his Free Palestine pin on, and he, like, shook their hands when they were going upstage. And I said, okay, Guy, I love you. [00:29:55] Speaker C: Okay, Guy. [00:29:56] Speaker A: Okay, Guy, I see you. I loved that Flo. Did anyone see Flo winning? I didn't. I put. So my Oscar predictions. I was 20 out of 23. [00:30:07] Speaker C: Nice. [00:30:08] Speaker A: But I did not get. I definitely thought it was gonna be Wild Robot. [00:30:12] Speaker C: I did, too. But I also. I also saw that thing again where Flo was also nominated for Best International Feature. And I was like, that's wild. Like, to see an animated film get nominated for both. So my instinct was like, they're gonna give it to Flo because they're gonna give the international feature to. I'm still Here so that they both win. But then that hurt me because the Wild Robot was the most beautiful film I have seen in a very long time. Yeah, I cried four separate times. And when you thought the movie was gonna end, it kept going. I love the Wild Robot. I'll die on that. [00:30:49] Speaker A: If there are no more Wild Robot fans, it's because we're dead. [00:30:53] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:30:53] Speaker A: Truly, like, eyes killed us. [00:30:56] Speaker C: Why couldn't it have been a tie? [00:30:59] Speaker A: Right? I was. I was gagged. [00:31:03] Speaker B: I think that's another category where you kind of see that international membership come. Because this is like, I think the first three year stint in the category's history that a Disney movie did not win. [00:31:14] Speaker A: Yes. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And it's the single smallest movie to have won a major award. And less than 15 people worked on, had small budget, and it was made on an app that anyone can download. [00:31:29] Speaker C: Called Blender, which is so cool. It's so cool having that win and Anora win. Like, yeah. [00:31:35] Speaker B: I think the run has been like Guillermo del Toro's Pinocchio and then Miyazaki's Boy in the Heron and then Flow. It's a pretty cool run. Like, the Academy is actually being cool for once. [00:31:47] Speaker A: For once. [00:31:48] Speaker B: It's kind of fun to see what's gonna win next. [00:31:51] Speaker C: Right before that was Encanto. [00:31:53] Speaker B: It might have been. [00:31:54] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah. [00:31:54] Speaker C: Encanto was the one. [00:31:56] Speaker A: Yeah. So it's cool to see this trajectory that the animated movies are in, you know, Like, I feel like that's another one that people don't really take seriously. But now that, like, these cool, innovative movies are winning, people are like, oh, shit, let me see this animated movie. Wait till next year. Shrek 5, right? [00:32:20] Speaker C: If they fix that animation. [00:32:23] Speaker A: Yes, maybe. What? [00:32:25] Speaker C: They probably won't. [00:32:26] Speaker A: But I don't know. I don't know if I told either of you my theory about the Shrek animation. I feel like they did that to see. To get the public's opinion on how we felt about the new animation. And then we all were like, what the fuck is this? [00:32:42] Speaker C: What is this? [00:32:42] Speaker A: Is it my Shrek? And now they're gonna switch it back because they still do have another. Like, it comes out Christmas, December 2026. So I think they're gonna switch it back. [00:32:55] Speaker C: And I love that Sonic situation. [00:32:57] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:32:57] Speaker C: Yep. And then Sonic tweeted and was like, I have some tips. Or like, it was like, it was something of, like, here, I can help. Like, this happened to me before. And I was like, that's so funny. I don't know if that was Ben Schwartz doing that or if that was truly like, the Sonic account, but I. [00:33:15] Speaker A: Love Sonic being shady. I love Shady Sonic. [00:33:18] Speaker B: Okay. But Sonic took the notes and now they've had three incredibly successful mo. [00:33:23] Speaker A: You guys are actually Sonic Stans, are you? [00:33:26] Speaker C: Because I love Sonic. [00:33:28] Speaker B: Okay. I think you're misremembering. I actually haven't seen any of that. [00:33:32] Speaker A: Oh, you haven't? [00:33:33] Speaker C: I've seen all three. I saw the third one in theaters. [00:33:36] Speaker A: I know you love it. [00:33:37] Speaker C: Because I am a die hard Jim Carrey fan. [00:33:39] Speaker A: Yes. [00:33:40] Speaker C: And that first Sonic movie. Dare I say it was a perfect movie. It was a perfect kids movie. [00:33:46] Speaker A: Wow. [00:33:47] Speaker C: And I don't like those animated movies where it's like one thing is animated and everyone else is real. [00:33:52] Speaker B: But that one where everything's anime, one person's real. [00:33:55] Speaker A: I agree. [00:33:56] Speaker C: Yeah. Like cool world. Yeah. [00:33:59] Speaker B: Do you think they lend themselves to like a big like trilogy binge? The Sonic movies? Because it's almost too big to ignore at this point. [00:34:07] Speaker C: I know with the fourth one they like. The fourth one is like coming like they already announced it. [00:34:12] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:34:12] Speaker A: Oh, wow. [00:34:14] Speaker B: Maybe. [00:34:15] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:34:16] Speaker B: I was a big Mario and Sonic at the Olympic Games on the Wii fan. So this is where my love comes from. [00:34:23] Speaker C: I think those movies are. I could do a whole episode about Sonic if you want. But we don't. We're. We're not here for Sonic. [00:34:30] Speaker B: We're here for the Oscars. [00:34:32] Speaker A: We'll do a separate bonus episode that. [00:34:34] Speaker C: Should have been nominated for best picture. Hot take. [00:34:38] Speaker A: Hot take, honey. International film. I'm still here. Here's my thing with the international film category. I feel like they need to rethink this entire category because one country submitting a film is kind of crazy to me. I feel like it's well intentioned. And maybe 20, 30 years ago that made sense. Cause it was mostly French and Italian cinema because they have an established film industry. But now I'm like, I think we need to reassess the international film category even. I'm so glad that I'm still here. 1. Since Fernanda didn't win give that film the flowers. But I just feel like they need to rethink the international category. [00:35:25] Speaker B: I think you hope at one day you don't need it anymore. I think, you know, that's kind of the goal. [00:35:31] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:35:32] Speaker B: See, but in the way it exists now, it's like the film's government practically gets to pick the movie. [00:35:40] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:35:40] Speaker B: Really eliminates a lot of like. [00:35:42] Speaker C: Yeah, yeah. [00:35:43] Speaker B: Really current and important things. Movies which not every international movie needs to be important. But you know, that's a good place to showcase, you know. [00:35:52] Speaker A: Right. [00:35:53] Speaker B: That. At the Oscars. [00:35:54] Speaker A: Yeah. To get it shown to a wider range of audiences, you know, and maybe. [00:35:58] Speaker C: Make it, like 10. Best Picture, Best international features. Like, the best picture. Give them 10. There's how many countries? 144. 244. I didn't do well in school. [00:36:12] Speaker A: Oh, yeah. [00:36:13] Speaker C: There's so many countries, right? [00:36:16] Speaker A: Pop culture. [00:36:17] Speaker C: Oscar. You're right. [00:36:23] Speaker A: The Brazilian fandom. Can we talk about. [00:36:26] Speaker C: Oh, love. [00:36:26] Speaker A: Brazil goes hard. Oh, my God. [00:36:28] Speaker C: Did you see that clip of them watching on the side of a building? [00:36:31] Speaker B: Yes. [00:36:32] Speaker A: They were having parades. Honey. [00:36:34] Speaker C: I saw a clip. It was the funniest thing I had ever seen. It was at a gay bar, and someone was filming it, and there were two guys making out in front of him. And then Penelope Cruz said, I'm still here. And everyone erupted. And the gay guys making out literally just started screaming because they, like, they were fully checked out, pulled out their phone and were, like, filming. And I was like, this is. This is true. That was true love, what I said. [00:36:58] Speaker A: Yes. I feel like we need to be like that. We're such a culture that, like, celebrates our movie star. We need to be like that. Okay. We need to be in the streets, like Emma Stonewide. [00:37:10] Speaker C: Oh, my God. [00:37:12] Speaker A: You know? [00:37:13] Speaker B: Absolutely. And when Amy Adams claims her Oscar, I will be in the streets. I will set a car on fire. [00:37:19] Speaker A: Okay. I didn't get it with Sonic, but I do know that you are Amy Adams. [00:37:24] Speaker B: Stand down. [00:37:25] Speaker A: Stand 10 toes down for Amy. [00:37:28] Speaker C: When that Janis Joplin biopic ever happens, she will get that Oscar. [00:37:33] Speaker B: I think at this point, it'll have to be like, a speculative fiction. I hope about if Janice had lived, because Amy's probably aged out of that role, but you never know. [00:37:45] Speaker C: She should have gotten it for Arrival, which she didn't even get nominated for, which is insane. That movie is beautiful. [00:37:52] Speaker A: Oh, that's truly, like, one of my favorite movies. It's so good. It's so good. [00:37:59] Speaker C: Yes. [00:37:59] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:38:00] Speaker A: I was hoping she was gonna get something for Night Bitch. [00:38:03] Speaker B: Well, you know what? She got a globe nod. [00:38:06] Speaker A: That's true. [00:38:06] Speaker B: She was not. Indie spirits. We take this. [00:38:09] Speaker A: Yes, that's true. [00:38:10] Speaker B: Big win after Hillbilly Elegy. So, yes, us and her. Her camp are very excited. [00:38:18] Speaker C: The Amy Adams camp. [00:38:22] Speaker A: Also. I feel like there wasn't a lot of, like, crowd work when it comes to, like, the audience. I don't know if everyone is filming the Odyssey with Christopher Nolan. Everyone's there because I was like, there's not a lot of. It's not how it used to be. You know what I mean? It Used to be like, Hollywood's prom, where I feel like this. [00:38:47] Speaker C: Maybe it's because, like, we didn't have Nicole, you know, we didn't have Nicole Kidman. We didn't have Meryl Streep. We didn't have Anne Hathaway, Angelina. We don't have, like, the. The girlies who are, like, used to there, and they're like, we have a good time. It was like all these, like. Like, people who are like. Like Demi Moore who's like, thank you for having me. You know, like, yes. So happy to be here. And everyone is just very like. And then you have, you know, like, Edward Norton who's like, yeah, I've done this. Yeah, I've done this. [00:39:13] Speaker A: Yeah. Right, right, right. She. Demi was in the Jack Nicholson seat. She was front row center. Honey. She was. [00:39:22] Speaker B: She looked good. [00:39:23] Speaker A: She looked so good. [00:39:24] Speaker B: She was dressed to win because she would. [00:39:26] Speaker C: They put her there because they said, steps away. Steps away. So you can just get right up on that stage. [00:39:31] Speaker A: Easy Access. [00:39:34] Speaker B: I think she's in Boots, Riley's next movie. So you never know. You never know. [00:39:39] Speaker A: I feel like she'll have her time again. [00:39:41] Speaker C: She could have a little, like, three to four year moment where she gets a couple Oscar nods, maybe even a. [00:39:48] Speaker B: Win and, you know, maybe not an Oscar. Who knows about the Oscars, but could definitely see a limited series win at the Emmys. [00:39:55] Speaker A: Yes. [00:39:56] Speaker B: For Mr. Me. [00:39:57] Speaker A: Yes, yes. [00:39:58] Speaker C: What's that? Paramount one. She's in right now with Billy Bob the Land Man. Land Man. Maybe. Maybe they'll just kind of slip her an Emmy nomination because of this. This Oscar nomination. [00:40:08] Speaker A: I know, I know. It's so interesting because I feel like we haven't seen, like, a Hollywood ingenue win since, like, the Brie Larson, Jennifer Lawrence era. [00:40:18] Speaker B: Yeah, right. I feel like Emma Stone was a little bit more. [00:40:21] Speaker A: She was a little more established. Yeah. [00:40:23] Speaker B: She won her first. [00:40:25] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:40:25] Speaker B: Second. [00:40:26] Speaker A: Mm. Yeah. [00:40:27] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:40:27] Speaker A: I mean, if you think about it, Mickey Rourke for the Wrestler, Eddie Murphy for Dream Girls, Sylvester Stallone for Creed. [00:40:35] Speaker C: Right. [00:40:35] Speaker A: They're all these, like, big box office powerhouses, and it seems like they don't really go for giving them their flowers. [00:40:44] Speaker C: No. [00:40:45] Speaker B: Mr. Brendan Fraser, the comeback narrative is stepping away. [00:40:48] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:40:49] Speaker C: Which I haven't. I never watched the Whale. I didn't watch it. [00:40:52] Speaker A: It was a hard watch. [00:40:53] Speaker B: It's not great. [00:40:54] Speaker A: Yeah, it was. It was a hard watch. [00:40:57] Speaker B: But Hong Chao in it is worth the price of admission. [00:41:01] Speaker A: A thousand. She. Yes, agreed, agreed. And I also. [00:41:05] Speaker B: Tough movie. [00:41:06] Speaker A: It's a tough movie. And I also Kind of think, like, Anora was a weird movie in itself to be nominated and win, but also the substance was too. The substance was more so. So I wonder if that worked against me in a way. [00:41:21] Speaker B: Oh, yeah, the horror bias. I'm sure. [00:41:24] Speaker C: Yeah. Yeah, I'm sure. [00:41:26] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:41:26] Speaker C: But I do love that. I do love, you know, those, like, dedicated, die hard, like, older generations who watch all of the movies and having them watch the Substance and. And truly, like, seeing their opinions of, like, what did I just watch? [00:41:39] Speaker A: Right. [00:41:40] Speaker C: It's, like, kind of refreshing and, like, I really liked that having, like, people, like, who probably weren't going to see the substance have to watch it because of the Oscars. [00:41:52] Speaker A: Mm. Like, I would love to see, like, John Lithgow or, like, you know what I mean? [00:42:02] Speaker B: Make him watch the Substance, but you. [00:42:03] Speaker A: Know what I mean? I'd love to be a fly on the wall watching, like, a Glenn Close or someone watch it and be like, this is okay. [00:42:11] Speaker C: I feel Glenn Close would watch that and she'd be like, this is fabulous. [00:42:14] Speaker A: Yeah. I was gonna say Glenn Close would be like, this is actually so cunty. [00:42:17] Speaker C: She calls her manager and she's like, put me in one of these. [00:42:20] Speaker A: I didn't get that. [00:42:21] Speaker B: Get Coralie on the phone for me. [00:42:26] Speaker A: Another thing I really enjoyed was the Fab Five presenters for the cinematography and the costume design. [00:42:32] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:42:33] Speaker A: Last year's it was for the acting categories, but they couldn't do that because of Ms. Carla, so they had to do the kit clips. And I didn't really like that inconsistency because I like to see clips. [00:42:46] Speaker B: Yeah, give us the clips. [00:42:47] Speaker A: Give us the clips. [00:42:49] Speaker B: I do not need to hear Robert Downey Jr. Mumble adjectives out for, like, three minutes. [00:42:55] Speaker C: Truly. [00:42:55] Speaker B: It was horrid. [00:42:57] Speaker C: Yeah. Why not show us supporting as well? Why only show us? [00:43:01] Speaker A: It was literally because of Carla that they like. Emma Stone was probably like, I'm not saying anything about this woman at all, you know? [00:43:11] Speaker C: That's so true. [00:43:12] Speaker A: Yeah. I didn't really like the inconsistency with that, but I did like that they did it for costume and cinematography because it was nice to illuminate in a very cool way what these people do on these films and, like, a large scale, especially costume design and cinematography. And Paul Tazewell, a fellow Northeastern Ohioan. [00:43:38] Speaker B: Yes. [00:43:38] Speaker A: From Akron, AKA Rowdy, being the first black man to win for costume design. It was, like, on the front page of the paper. My mom sent it to me, and I was like, save that newspaper. I'm gonna frame that someday. [00:43:51] Speaker B: Such A good win. [00:43:53] Speaker A: Such a good win. And such a great speech. [00:43:54] Speaker C: I. Oh, true. [00:43:56] Speaker A: Loved, loved that. And I'm. I am glad that the Brutalist did win for cinematography because it's. [00:44:02] Speaker C: Yes. [00:44:02] Speaker A: Large. [00:44:04] Speaker C: If it's gonna win anything, it's gonna. Cinematography. Yeah, yeah. Every shot. Every. Even, like we had talked about this, like, even the beginning title card sequence of them on the. On the, on the boat with the upside down Statue of Liberty in a car. I loved all of his shots, like in front of the car and getting the sideways credits. Like, even just that. I was like, oh, beautiful. [00:44:31] Speaker A: This is it. [00:44:31] Speaker B: When they go to Italy and that, like marble. [00:44:35] Speaker A: Oh, my God, just gorgeous. So gorgeous. Yeah. So I'm glad that they showcased that and got to like give those people their flowers and for the people who aren't cinephiles to see, like the work that they really put into these. I wish they would do that for production design too. But I did love the Ben Stiller bit. I thought that was funny. [00:44:56] Speaker C: That was fun. [00:44:56] Speaker A: And he's so agile. I was like, okay. [00:44:59] Speaker C: Like for a 62 year old man. [00:45:01] Speaker A: Okay. [00:45:01] Speaker C: We love to see it. Maybe he's like, Zoolander 3, it's coming and I'm showing you guys. Or little Fockers too. [00:45:11] Speaker A: Little Fockers too. They grow now. Well, I guess it's time to dig in. [00:45:20] Speaker B: Wait, I do have one more positive. [00:45:22] Speaker A: Okay, give us the positive. [00:45:24] Speaker B: June Squibb. Oh, June Squibb. [00:45:27] Speaker A: That was so funny. Oh, my God. She said, I'm actually Bill Scarsgard. [00:45:34] Speaker C: I love on stage right now. [00:45:36] Speaker A: I'm at home reading a book. That was great. [00:45:39] Speaker B: But, yes, I am now ready to dig into the negative. [00:45:42] Speaker A: Yeah. So what would you say was the most unfortunate thing of the telecast? I mean, we've got a few, so. [00:45:49] Speaker B: Oh, I'll go for one. [00:45:51] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:45:52] Speaker B: I'd say the winners of Best Animated Short, they come up immediately. So charming. This woman is explaining their situation. She starts reciting the speech from memory. And this man grabs her phone from her, tells her she's not reading it right, and then recites the same exact speech. [00:46:13] Speaker C: That was wild to watch. [00:46:15] Speaker B: That was infuriating. [00:46:17] Speaker C: He said almost word for word what she had memorized. [00:46:20] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:46:21] Speaker C: And like, I was like, did you not hear what she just said? Like, you're the one not listening. [00:46:26] Speaker A: Right. Not you mansplaining her speech to her. [00:46:30] Speaker C: Right. And her kind of just being like. It was so charming at first. She was like, we just got here. We like almost didn't make it. [00:46:35] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:46:36] Speaker C: And then he was like, you're doing it wrong. You're doing it wrong. Give me the phone. [00:46:39] Speaker B: And then he proceeded to say, we just got here. We're so excited. What? [00:46:46] Speaker A: Yeah, that. That was a doozy for me. [00:46:50] Speaker C: It was best original song. Emilia, Amelia, girl. [00:46:59] Speaker A: Her trying to start that sing along. I'm like, please stop. No one knows the words to any of the songs. [00:47:05] Speaker C: None of them were songs, and none. [00:47:08] Speaker A: Of them are memorable. [00:47:09] Speaker C: I was so mad as someone who like it, like, if. If anyone was like, what do you ever want to win an Oscar for? For me, it's best original song. And to watch mo like those nominees. And I was like, what's happening? What's happening to this category? [00:47:25] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:47:25] Speaker C: Like, why are we. Why is this category just diminishing? And also, especially for Emilia Perez, when literally every song was like, go to work. I wake up and I lay in the bed. Song's over. Yeah, that was it. It drove me nuts watching that movie. [00:47:43] Speaker A: Yes. [00:47:44] Speaker B: Do you have a personal pick that wasn't nominated? Any original songs? [00:47:48] Speaker C: Honestly, just give it to Challengers. Just one of the songs from Challengers and there doesn't have to be words. That's how minimal I think, like, this year there were, like, no songs. [00:48:03] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:48:04] Speaker C: Like, you know what I mean? Like, give it to just Trent Reznor. Just give it to him. You created a beautiful song. We don't need lyrics. [00:48:11] Speaker A: Yeah. It should have gotten its flowers. Like, I'm glad the Brutalist won for score because that score is so, like, epic. Right. But challenger should have been nominated, period. Also, Miley did a song for the last show, Girl. [00:48:27] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:48:28] Speaker A: And it was good. I'm like, give it to her. [00:48:32] Speaker C: But it's also things too, like, I think about movies like Barb and Star where you have songs written for a movie like that. To me, as a like, for filmmakers. Acknowledge that. Acknowledge that. Like, Jamie Dornan did. Like, such a funny but also, like, beautiful song. [00:48:50] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:48:51] Speaker C: Like, why was songs from, like, Pop Star not nominated? Right? Like, why are comedy songs in movies not nominated anymore other than, like, Eurovision when, like, when that hometown song was nominated, I was like, look at this. That's so funny. [00:49:06] Speaker A: Right. [00:49:07] Speaker C: When random things come in. But this year, I was so mad that Emilia Perez even got nominated for best Richard songs. [00:49:13] Speaker A: I know. [00:49:14] Speaker B: Taking two of the slots. [00:49:15] Speaker C: Two of the slots. [00:49:17] Speaker B: And we don't even have Kate McKinnon on SNL anymore to play that one woman. She would have really. [00:49:22] Speaker A: She would have done a really great job making fun of her. 100 and none for Gretchen Wieners aka Diane Warren. They keep playing in this woman's face. God damn. I know. She is just like, why do I even do this? [00:49:37] Speaker B: Well, okay, you're not gonna win an Oscar for a Netflix Tyler Perry movie about World War II. You're not gonna win an Oscar for the movie about the flaming hot Cheetos. [00:49:47] Speaker C: Like, she's got the flaming hot Cheetos. One was shocking to me. [00:49:51] Speaker A: Yeah. Yeah. [00:49:53] Speaker B: The best thing about that was all of the Becky G stands on Twitter thinking that Becky G. Had been nominated for the Oscar. [00:49:59] Speaker A: Yes. [00:49:59] Speaker B: Yeah, it was very funny. Yes. [00:50:02] Speaker A: Actually, no, guys, I hate to break it to you, that's not it. Another thing, I hated the weird James Bond In Memoriam. [00:50:14] Speaker C: I know. [00:50:15] Speaker A: I. I was excited initially when I saw like, okay, I love Lisa killing it on White Lotus. Love Blackpink. Doja slays Ray. Great. But then it was like I thought they were gonna do the song that they have out right now and then doing that weird James Bond In Memoriam. I was just like, is James Bond dead? [00:50:37] Speaker C: But I also felt like it wasn't an anniversary. I feel like we had an anniversary recently and they did something. And they did something. It also, it didn't promote the new James Bond. It felt like it was leading up to. And here's your new Bond. [00:50:49] Speaker A: Right? [00:50:50] Speaker C: Here's Michael B. Jordan as your new Bond. Or like. No, that's Aaron Taylor Johnson. You know of something. [00:50:58] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:50:58] Speaker C: I also thought Rhea was going to maybe sing the In Memoriam song, not this horrifying orchestra singing. It really felt like everyone we were watching in the In Memoriam did something bad. [00:51:14] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah, yeah. [00:51:16] Speaker C: But imagine Rey singing something like for the In Memoriam, not this James Bond thing. And I. I'm the biggest. Ray. Stan. I love. [00:51:24] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:51:25] Speaker C: Love Ray. [00:51:25] Speaker A: Yeah. We've talked about her and she's great. But I also was like, where's Adele? [00:51:30] Speaker B: It was. It was just odd. [00:51:32] Speaker A: It was just weird. And then Doja love her, but. And she even made fun of it on Insta. She said like, I had fun. I may have hit some flat notes. [00:51:42] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:51:42] Speaker A: At least she's self aware enough to know that she was not it. But she looked great. [00:51:49] Speaker B: Great. None of the performers fault. It was just an awkward thing. [00:51:53] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:51:53] Speaker B: And I actually like the Margaret quality part the most, I think Sounds like, well, this is unexpected. [00:51:58] Speaker C: Yeah. It came out of nowhere, literally. [00:51:59] Speaker A: I was like, oh, is she about to be the new Bond girl? Is she James Bond? [00:52:03] Speaker C: That's what we all thought. We were like, oh, she is for sure a Bond girl. [00:52:07] Speaker A: I could see It. Yeah, yeah, she be. She'd be good. I also. I love to see Oprah and Whoopi. Whoopi looked, oh, phenomenal. Oh, my God, so good. Whoopi brought out the big guns. I love Queen Latifah, obviously, but I was like, oh, we're doing another Wiz song and it's Queen Latifah. That's great. But also, Quincy Jones has a insane discography. Like, we could have done so many. We had so many options in songs and performers. [00:52:47] Speaker B: I feel like that section would have really lent itself to a medley because at the end of the day, it was like, oh, no, we're just listening to a full performance of Ease On Down. Like, yeah, it just played out. It felt very slowly. Like you felt the time ticking during it. [00:53:02] Speaker C: But, well, that was like, the moment, too, where I was like, you know how, like, Lifetime Achievement Awards when with sag, where we got to see Jane Fonda's body of work. I really wanted to hear the things Quincy Jones created. I would have killed for a two and a half minute montage of, like, every. Everything he has scored and all that stuff instead of one song sung live. [00:53:27] Speaker B: Like, I think the Oscars are allergic to a good montage now. [00:53:30] Speaker C: I think so. [00:53:31] Speaker B: Maybe in the past they overdid it, but I'm like, I think that really is more of a tribute than this. [00:53:36] Speaker C: Yeah, like, have the directors, you know, give us that montage where the directors are talking about working with Quincy and then we see, like, him creating Ease On Down. And everyone was like, oh, no one's having fun at the Oscars. And I was like, I would be like, if Whoopi and Oprah were presenting something about Quincy. And then all of a sudden, we were just getting Ease On Down. I, too, in the audience would be like, yeah, great. [00:54:02] Speaker A: I feel like the Oscars need to talk to the producers at the Grammys. Cause I feel like the Grammys are really. The last few years, they've been really good contemporary, giving the people what they want. Like, give us Sabrina, give us Charlie, give us Chapel, where it's like, the Oscars don't cater to the people who are watching the cinephiles. Or they cater, I guess, to the cinephiles, but not to the general audience. Like, I think it would be cool to see what the breakdown was of the votes. You know what I mean? To just be more transparent and talk more to the audience versus the people in the room. [00:54:49] Speaker C: Yeah, totally. [00:54:51] Speaker A: You know, period, period. [00:54:53] Speaker C: Docked. [00:54:54] Speaker A: Yeah. That was probably one of my least. [00:54:57] Speaker C: Favorite Things well, and it doesn't affect YouTube. But my least favorite thing is when it cut out on Hulu. [00:55:04] Speaker A: Yeah, let's talk. [00:55:04] Speaker C: Or do you want to. Do you want to wait for a second? [00:55:07] Speaker A: We're in the dirty, so let's get in the dirty, because that's flop. Tina Aguilera was fucking Hulu cutting out multiple times, right. Did it happen multiple times? [00:55:19] Speaker C: For us? It. For us, it only happened the one time. Literally right when they said, when we return Best Actress and Best Picture. And instead of going to commercial break, it just said, thank you for watching. And I. A cold sweat went down my body because I said internally, I said, I have about a minute and a half to figure this out. I have a minute and a half to figure this out. And, like, I was watching with three other, like, huge cinephiles, and all four of us immediately went to our phone and was like. One person was on Twitter being like, this is happening to everybody. Another person was like, searching where to watch this. Quickly, I almost. [00:55:59] Speaker B: There's Dubai. [00:56:01] Speaker C: Oh, my gosh. I almost. I almost did the YouTube TV prescription subscript prescription. It felt like a prescription, a subscription, where I. I said, like, in five days, I'll pay $82.99 a month. And my friend was like, don't do that. And I was like, it's important. But then by the time I was about to do that, you had text me and you said, they're announcing it right now. We sat in silence. We. There were four of us on a couch just sitting in silence, saying, what do we do? What do we do? [00:56:32] Speaker B: I mean, it's so cliche at this moment for, you know, a gay man to say that the Oscars is a Super Bowl. But it is. Literally. [00:56:41] Speaker A: It is. [00:56:41] Speaker C: Yes. [00:56:42] Speaker B: That is like, second or fourth quarter. [00:56:47] Speaker C: No, literally fourth quarter, Hail Mary, final quarter. [00:56:52] Speaker B: It's. That's when it's cut out. It's like, that's your best pictures. Whatever. Like, Best Best Actress is the moment of the night, right? That's what you wait for. [00:57:00] Speaker A: Right? [00:57:00] Speaker C: And I feel like it. Like, I could be wrong, but I feel like in the last. I would even say 10 to 15 years, the best Actress category has become a sport. Right? [00:57:11] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:57:11] Speaker C: Like, it's always been the competitive thing, but, like, I remember, like, the year when they thought Chadwick was going to win, so they said Best Picture, and then Best Actor, and then it was Anthony Hopkins, and now it is. Now they're putting Best Actress, like, and it used to be Director Picture. [00:57:26] Speaker A: Right. Remember? [00:57:27] Speaker C: It was like, Actress, actor, director, picture. And now it's like, director, actor, actress, picture. And so should be. [00:57:35] Speaker A: I agree. [00:57:36] Speaker C: I agree. [00:57:37] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:57:37] Speaker C: So it's become. It is a sport to me. [00:57:41] Speaker A: Yeah, it is. And it's like Hulu literally had one job to do. [00:57:45] Speaker C: One job. [00:57:46] Speaker A: Keep. Keep the show running. And did they pull over? No, no, they did it. And it just goes back to what Sean Baker was saying. This is why we need to go to the fucking theater. Because these streamers, I mean, I know they're trying Netflix with sag, you know, trying the streaming thing. It's still in, like, it's infantile stage, but, girl, that's crazy. I. I felt so bad when you were like, oh, my God, it's gone. And I was like, I. I don't. Like, I would have been like you. I would have literally been like, I have to get a subscription to something, because I. I can't. You're trapped. You don't want to know what's happening, so you can't go online. [00:58:29] Speaker C: And I didn't want to find out from a 15 year old on Twitter being like, like, Mikey Madison, like, you know, and that was also a shocking thing to find out in a silent room because we were like, wait, what? We didn't even get to see the moment Demi lost. And we didn't get to see Meg Ryan and Billy. We didn't even know it was Meg Ryan and Billy Crystal until like, literally an hour later. [00:58:55] Speaker B: I would have let my phone take on any virus. [00:58:58] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:58:58] Speaker B: I would have been going to the craziest streams. [00:59:01] Speaker A: Yes. [00:59:02] Speaker B: And I would have taken. [00:59:04] Speaker A: Risked it all, wrist it all. [00:59:06] Speaker C: Truly. [00:59:06] Speaker A: Okay, do we think that Demi had a little premonition that she was gonna lose because she lost to a hooker before in. At the Golden Globes, to Julia Roberts for Pretty Woman. So maybe she had a premonition. [00:59:22] Speaker C: A ghost. Yes, a premonition from that ghost. Whoopi was on stage. [00:59:28] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:59:29] Speaker A: She was like, oh, no, it's. It's happening again. I mean, I kind of knew once Sean won for editing, I was like, oh, it's a wrap. It is a rap. And then when Quentin Tarantino came out for directing, I was like, oh, yeah, because they're really good friends. So I was like, oh, shit, this is sweeping. For real, but okay. I love Demi. Like, I've literally loved her my entire life. I'm gonna say something that might be a little controversial. [01:00:01] Speaker C: I'm excited. [01:00:01] Speaker A: I couldn't imagine watching Enora and the substance back to back and thinking that Anora deserved it over Mikey Because I do feel like Mikey dominates Enora. And I also think my friend Dema and I shout out, demma, I love you. We were talking about with the Academy, sometimes there's a performance that, like, you feel deserves to win. It would be, like a very prolific moment in the history books. And then there's a performance that's just better. Like last year with Lily Gladstone versus Emma Stone and Poor Things. Like, of course, Lily Gladstone winning would have been monumental and so important in, like, a history making moment. But Emma Stone and Poor Things kind of ate her up. I have two separate lists. I have my wish list, what I want to win, and when I think it's gonna win. And like, I had on my wish list, Mikey. [01:01:06] Speaker C: Yeah. [01:01:07] Speaker B: Yeah. And sometimes who I think is the best isn't necessarily who I'm rooting for. [01:01:11] Speaker A: Agreed. Yeah. [01:01:12] Speaker C: You kind of have to. [01:01:14] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah. [01:01:15] Speaker B: Although I will go on record as a Lily Gladstone fan of that performance, and I would have voted for it, but. [01:01:21] Speaker A: Okay, okay. [01:01:23] Speaker B: I know, I know. But it is just a thing where it's like, Mikey Madison's clearly bursting onto the scene, you know, like, it's going to be kind of the pick of the litter for her right now, where it's like, oh, to me, is this going to happen again? [01:01:37] Speaker A: I think it will. I do feel like it will. And I also think the Academy does this thing where it's like, if you're not in the mood, like, she was in the movie 50% of the time. Same with Lily Gladstone, Stone and Killers of the Flower Moon, where they're not in the movie the whole time. Whereas Emma Stone and Poor Things and Mikey Madison and anora are in 95% of the movie. [01:02:02] Speaker C: I mean, and I think he literally carried that movie on her back. [01:02:05] Speaker A: Literally. [01:02:06] Speaker C: Like, she. I remember watching that movie and truly halfway through, I was like, have I breathed properly in like an hour? I was like, yeah. So with her, the whole movie, I literally. She made me feel everything she was feeling. [01:02:20] Speaker A: Yes. [01:02:21] Speaker C: And then when the movie ended, it truly was like I had gone through the same heartbreak she had gone through. [01:02:27] Speaker A: Exactly. [01:02:27] Speaker C: And I remember being like, that was so impactful. [01:02:30] Speaker A: Yeah. Yeah. And I think that to me, it would have been so, like, important for her and just like a lifetime, like, we've loved you for so long. But I also. I don't think the Academy really, like, they do do the, like, you know, oh, here we're giving you your flowers now. But I feel like if you're not in the movie the whole time and your best actor Actress. You're not gonna get it unless you're. [01:02:56] Speaker C: Like Anthony Hopkins in Silence of Lambs or, like, you know, like a profound performance. [01:03:03] Speaker A: Like, legendary. Holy shit. We've never seen anything like this before. [01:03:07] Speaker C: I feel like, check me on the fact of this, but I remember watching the year Marion Cotillard won, and I think it was against, like, everyone thought Julia, Julie and Julia. Right. Meryl Streep playing Julia Child. [01:03:20] Speaker B: Julie Christie. [01:03:21] Speaker C: Oh, Julie Christie with I'm Away from Her. Everyone was like, julie Christie is going to win Monumental, like, career winning thing. But I remember watching both those movies, and I was like, I don't know who Marion Cotillard is, but that movie was insane. [01:03:38] Speaker A: Yes. [01:03:38] Speaker C: Her singing that last song, like, literally watching her singing Lovey and Rose, and it changed into, like, from her bedroom going crazy to singing. I was like, I've never seen something like this. And when she won, I was like, yeah. To me, that's like, the example of, like, yeah, we could have given it to her, but we're gonna give it to this person who was in a foreign film who literally broke our hearts. [01:04:00] Speaker A: Yeah. People only humanized Demi more in this race and didn't think of any of the other actors necessarily deserving it because they haven't been through as much as Demi. I feel like people are taking away Mikey's flowers, and that kind of pisses me off because it's like, you can't say what she's been through, Fernanda, all of them. And people are just so razor focused on Demi, and it's like, she's gonna be okay. I really do have a feeling, like she's moving outside of the popcorn and people are gonna take her more seriously. [01:04:37] Speaker C: Yeah. [01:04:37] Speaker A: I'm hoping that that's the case for her. [01:04:41] Speaker C: Well, and I think this has opened doors for her that she never had that were doors that were always closed for her for her whole career. [01:04:48] Speaker A: Right. [01:04:49] Speaker C: And so now she's gonna probably get these offers where she's like, whoa, I can turn them down, or I can pick the right projects now, instead of just being, like, the woman who was part of the Brat Pack and then was in Charlie's Angels and, you know, like. And then married Ashton Kutcher. Like, she has, like, such. I think that's why it was so humbling watching her speeches, too, and watching her win these things, because she was so, like, this never happens to me. [01:05:16] Speaker A: I know. And, you know, she had a burner in her pocket. You know, that speech was gonna bring the room to their knees. [01:05:23] Speaker B: We miss having that Good speech. [01:05:25] Speaker A: I know. [01:05:26] Speaker B: I do think, Think it's like kind of a time in the culture where people are starting to remember her as an actress and not just a celebrity now. [01:05:33] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah. [01:05:34] Speaker B: Kind of going to that, like just going through all of her marriages and, like, what she's done, and it's like, oh, wait, no, like, she's talented. [01:05:41] Speaker A: Right. And maybe people will be writing stuff for her. [01:05:44] Speaker C: Yeah. [01:05:45] Speaker A: You know, I feel like this is. I don't. I don't think this is the last time we're gonna see her at the Academy Awards, but there is someone I kind of don't want to see again at the Academy Awards, which is what. [01:05:56] Speaker B: People were saying probably when he won. [01:05:59] Speaker C: His first Oscar, which is what I thought. [01:06:01] Speaker A: Yeah. When he just kissed Halle Berry. Mr. Adrien Brody won best actor for the Brutalist. And like, yeah, it was deserving. But that speech, though, longest speech in Oscar history. [01:06:18] Speaker B: To say what? [01:06:20] Speaker C: Truly. [01:06:21] Speaker A: That's the question. That's exactly for what? [01:06:26] Speaker B: You unravel that speech. You write it on a piece of paper. It could go around the world like three times. Like, horrid. [01:06:34] Speaker C: I didn't, I just didn't like hearing him say, you can turn the music off. I've done this before. [01:06:39] Speaker B: Like, even more reason for you to literally, truly. [01:06:45] Speaker C: That's when you cut to John Liskow. [01:06:47] Speaker A: Right. Oh, my God. And yeah, to tell the orchestra to stop because he's been there before. It was so, like, out of touch in like an old fashioned way. [01:06:59] Speaker C: Yeah. [01:06:59] Speaker A: You know what I mean? Like, I could see someone like Gary Cooper or Dustin Hoffman being. You know what I mean? It was just so. [01:07:08] Speaker C: But they would even do it more charmingly, you know. [01:07:11] Speaker A: Right, right. [01:07:12] Speaker C: His probably, like, try to sing along with the music and be like, I'm gonna keep going. [01:07:16] Speaker A: Right. [01:07:16] Speaker C: But like. Yeah, his just felt. And you could probably. You could see maybe in it, he. He thought he was being funny, but. [01:07:23] Speaker B: Like, he wasn't charming. [01:07:25] Speaker A: He's not charming. [01:07:26] Speaker B: He does not have. [01:07:27] Speaker A: No, it was very condescending and, like, self important. [01:07:31] Speaker C: Yeah. [01:07:31] Speaker A: And it was, it was really, really cringe to me. It just. He was trying to go for poetry and it just fell flat. [01:07:40] Speaker C: Yeah. [01:07:40] Speaker A: It was giving chicken noodle soup for the soul and it was just not. [01:07:45] Speaker C: It. [01:07:46] Speaker A: It was. And I just, it made me think of, like Tina Fey saying he was like a horrible host of SNL and him having this reputation in Hollywood of not being the greatest to work with. And it's like, well, maybe this is why you weren't really working, because I Know, he was trying to talk about it being a redemption story and you could come back. And I'm kind of like, maybe this is why you weren't working, girl. [01:08:11] Speaker C: Well, maybe he saw. He saw Brendan Fraser's come back and was like, that's me. And it's like, no, that. That actually isn't you. [01:08:17] Speaker A: No, actually, no. [01:08:19] Speaker C: Because you could never play George of the Jungle. [01:08:22] Speaker A: Oh, girl. [01:08:23] Speaker C: You could never be my biggest crush when I was 8 years old. A blast, honey. [01:08:29] Speaker A: A blast from the past, literally. [01:08:31] Speaker C: I love do right. [01:08:32] Speaker A: Oh, my God. [01:08:33] Speaker C: Bedazzled. [01:08:34] Speaker A: Oh, but sassy. [01:08:36] Speaker C: Yeah. Why waste our breath on Adrien Brody when we could talk about Brendan. [01:08:39] Speaker A: Brendan Fraser. A thousand percent. And it's also funny to me that Adrien Brody's partner is Georgina Chapman, who is Harvey Weinstein's ex wife. So those kids that you were talking about are Weinsteins. Are Weinsteins. And not that. I mean, she don't have anything to do with it, but I don't know, it just was very self absorbed. And I was like, damn, I wish Timmy would have got this. Because I would rather listen to Timmy say, I want to be the Michael Jordan of acting than this speech right here. Because it was just. [01:09:14] Speaker B: Because Timmy's earnest about it. [01:09:16] Speaker A: Right, right. [01:09:17] Speaker C: That's true. [01:09:18] Speaker A: Yeah, he's earnest. [01:09:19] Speaker C: And we thought because he was like, I was in the longest movie of the year, so I get the longest speech. [01:09:25] Speaker A: Yeah, he really thought. [01:09:26] Speaker C: He said, you guys took an intermission for my movie, so let's take an intermission for my speech. [01:09:31] Speaker A: No, literally, I wanted to. I wanted to. [01:09:34] Speaker C: Crazy. Also, can I say on the record. And I. On the record, I. I really predict in the next next two to four years, we're gonna get a really good comedy with Demi Moore and Courteney Cox as sisters, because that should have already happened. And I think that if. If I ever got the chance to write a script for someone, I would write a. Like, a sisters movie for Demi Moore and Courteney Cox. [01:10:03] Speaker B: Now is the time. [01:10:04] Speaker A: Oh, my God, I have chills, I think. [01:10:06] Speaker C: And then maybe put Brendan Fraser as, like, the ex husband of one of them. [01:10:10] Speaker A: Oh, my God. We need to write it. We need to write it right now. Oh, my God. [01:10:15] Speaker C: You heard it here. [01:10:16] Speaker A: You heard it here on the dish. With Dish. We're writing that. Courtney, Demi, we're doing that. I mean, the way I literally got home from watching that and started working on. I was so inspired just after the Best Picture and, you know, their speeches, just talking about, like, you can do this for the people at home, like independent cinema, this can. You can be up here. Like, just follow your passion and your dream. The way I went home and started working on all of the things, I was just so inspired to see something like that. [01:10:53] Speaker C: Same. [01:10:53] Speaker B: My roommate and I said we wanted to start a zine after, so I don't know what we were on, but, you know, inspiring time. [01:11:00] Speaker C: We all got. Got bit by the bug. I wrote. I wrote, like, eight pages of the pilot that I keep saying I'm finishing, which I like, truly, I am finishing. But, like, I watched Sean Baker say that, and I was like, you're right. [01:11:13] Speaker A: It's all up to me. Right? [01:11:15] Speaker C: And then, yeah, it's. It truly. Speeches work. [01:11:18] Speaker A: Speeches. [01:11:18] Speaker C: The right speeches work. [01:11:20] Speaker A: The right speeches work. Whereas, you know, there's the Adrien Brody route that's like, maybe I shouldn't do this. Make you question your entire livelihood. Okay, so we're almost done, but I have a little. I have a little gift for you guys. [01:11:39] Speaker C: A gift? [01:11:40] Speaker A: Yeah. Cause it's the Oscar episode. [01:11:42] Speaker C: Yes. I thought you had. Were like, we're gonna play a game. [01:11:46] Speaker A: I got you little Oscars. Oh, look at that. [01:11:50] Speaker C: Look at that booty on that Oscar. [01:11:52] Speaker A: Yay. I got you little Oscar. Oscars. Yay. [01:11:58] Speaker C: This is so cute. [01:12:00] Speaker A: Best guest, best guests. [01:12:02] Speaker B: It was a tie. [01:12:03] Speaker A: It was a tie. [01:12:04] Speaker C: It was a tie. [01:12:06] Speaker A: Oh, my God. [01:12:07] Speaker C: Like Katherine Hepburn and Barbara. [01:12:10] Speaker B: Who do you want to be? [01:12:11] Speaker C: I'll be. Who do you want? I want to be Barbara. [01:12:13] Speaker B: I'll be Katherine. [01:12:14] Speaker C: Okay. [01:12:14] Speaker A: That actually makes so much sense, though. [01:12:17] Speaker C: Great. [01:12:17] Speaker A: It makes sense. [01:12:17] Speaker C: I would have been fine with either. [01:12:19] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:12:19] Speaker C: But. [01:12:19] Speaker A: Yeah, that tracks. That tracks. [01:12:21] Speaker C: We never talked about how A Complete Unknown was the movie that got no wins. Yeah. [01:12:29] Speaker A: And Nickel Boys. [01:12:30] Speaker C: Yeah. We didn't even. [01:12:31] Speaker A: Conclave. Conclave got adapted well. [01:12:34] Speaker C: Nickel Boys. It sucks because there's only two nods. [01:12:37] Speaker A: I know. [01:12:38] Speaker C: Kind of like Past Lives. It was the same nominations as that. Past Lives. [01:12:42] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:12:42] Speaker B: The cinematography missed for Nickel Boys. Mind boggling. [01:12:47] Speaker A: So disrespectful. [01:12:48] Speaker C: How do you not give that a nomination when you do it from the perspective of the two boys? [01:12:53] Speaker B: Well, because Amelia Perez needed to be nominated. [01:12:56] Speaker A: But yet, hard truths. Where was she? Where was that? [01:13:00] Speaker B: That's like, my top three of the year. [01:13:02] Speaker A: It was so good. [01:13:04] Speaker C: I feel like she was, like, late in the promotion stuff. Right. [01:13:08] Speaker B: When she's People. That's such an unlikable character. I feel like people were like, I can't vote for her. I didn't like her. [01:13:14] Speaker A: I know. Yeah. But something crazy. [01:13:18] Speaker B: But people do like that. [01:13:19] Speaker A: People do. Do like that. Yeah. Yeah. [01:13:22] Speaker C: Didn't stop him for Amelia Perez. Didn't stop him for voting for Zoe Saldana. [01:13:30] Speaker B: Monica. [01:13:31] Speaker C: Monica. Fibrinoplasty. Yes. [01:13:36] Speaker A: Oh, yes. [01:13:37] Speaker C: Yes, yes. I'll never get over that song where she sings with the doctor after that when they're like, in that room and then all of a sudden the doctor's like, hey, lady. And I was like, oh, what? She's like, yes, Doctor. [01:13:54] Speaker B: I wrote music for something. Like, just not understanding. [01:13:57] Speaker C: I felt disrespectful. [01:13:58] Speaker A: It's Chad gbt. [01:14:00] Speaker C: Yeah. [01:14:00] Speaker A: Literally. It's so AI. I've already said this theory about it being. That's why they were pushing it so hard to be like, look, I can make good stuff. Look at this. [01:14:11] Speaker B: The screenplay is almost too batshit for me to think it's AI. I'm like, it makes too little sense. [01:14:18] Speaker A: That's true. [01:14:19] Speaker C: Like, it was like this year's Crash where we were like, are you all brainwashed? [01:14:24] Speaker B: It's like if you caught on to Crash being bad before the Oscars. [01:14:28] Speaker A: Right. And at least with Green Book, like, I think Green Book won because of the ending. Like, that ending. [01:14:36] Speaker C: I didn't watch it. [01:14:36] Speaker A: Them seeing each other hugging. I think that's really. Because it was like a heartwarming ending. [01:14:43] Speaker B: I watched Green Book hungover. [01:14:46] Speaker A: Oh, gosh. [01:14:46] Speaker B: After getting sick at PF Changs, and it was as horrible. [01:14:50] Speaker C: Yeah. [01:14:50] Speaker A: As it sounds. [01:14:51] Speaker B: Yeah. That's like the right way to watch Green Book. [01:14:54] Speaker A: That's. Yeah. [01:14:54] Speaker B: Misery. [01:14:55] Speaker A: I'm just so glad we don't have to talk about Emilio Perez anymore anymore. [01:14:59] Speaker B: I know. [01:14:59] Speaker C: Forever. [01:14:59] Speaker A: We're done. I was like, sending that picture of Nicole Kidman when she signed the divorce papers, like, yes, we're done. [01:15:09] Speaker B: Okay, wait, wait. Before. I feel like this is maybe the end of the wrap up, but who do you think is winning Best Picture next year? [01:15:16] Speaker A: Oh, wow. I could start. [01:15:18] Speaker B: What you guys think? [01:15:19] Speaker C: Yeah, please. [01:15:19] Speaker B: I think it might be Luca Guadagnino's year bringing Julia Roberts on board for the movie. After the Hunt with Andrew Garfield, Iowa debris. Feel like it? It sounds really good. [01:15:31] Speaker C: I was gonna say the Odyssey. [01:15:33] Speaker B: Oh, the next year. Yeah. [01:15:35] Speaker C: Yeah. [01:15:35] Speaker B: Early front runner. [01:15:36] Speaker C: That's actually a great question. [01:15:37] Speaker B: Sonic 3. Of course. [01:15:38] Speaker C: Sonic 3 for sure. Definitely in there. Do you think. Do you think Mickey17 has any. Any chance of being in that run with a March release? [01:15:48] Speaker B: Gut says no. [01:15:50] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah, I don't think so. [01:15:52] Speaker B: Especially because I feel like it doesn't have the buzz it needs to withstand the entire year. [01:15:56] Speaker A: It Doesn't. [01:15:57] Speaker B: But that being said, I'm very excited to see it. [01:15:59] Speaker C: Right. Also, why didn't Twisters get nominated for anything? There's an original song, right? There Ain't no Love in Oklahoma. [01:16:07] Speaker B: There were a few truly from that. [01:16:09] Speaker C: That I was like, tell me. I. I love Twister. The first one that that movie got nominated for, like, four Oscars, I think. Or like. Yeah. [01:16:16] Speaker B: And the. The visual effects in the new one were good. Like, I think it would have been worthy. Also. Lady Raven from Trap. Where are you in Where. [01:16:24] Speaker C: Yeah, are you Truly. That was the man in your kitchen. That's the butcher or whatever. She says her songs are good. And that's those also Smile, too. Those songs. [01:16:34] Speaker A: This is what I'm saying is. Was one of my favorite songs. [01:16:40] Speaker C: Need to be more taken more seriously. [01:16:42] Speaker A: I agree. And horror in general, because Smile 2 was one of my favorite, favorite movies of that movie. [01:16:47] Speaker C: Was incredible. [01:16:48] Speaker A: It was so good. [01:16:48] Speaker C: Naomi Scott. Excuse me. Oh, yeah. I've been a. A fan of her since day one. [01:16:55] Speaker A: Love. [01:16:55] Speaker C: Love her. [01:16:56] Speaker A: Love her. [01:16:57] Speaker C: I think I might be the only stand for the new Charlie's Angels reboot movie. I loved that movie. [01:17:03] Speaker A: Yeah, you're Power Rangers in that Minority Report. [01:17:07] Speaker C: Yeah, yeah, I know. I. I understand. I just. I. I just. I mean, that theme song, like, Don't Call me Angel. [01:17:14] Speaker A: Like, yeah, she's good. [01:17:15] Speaker C: She's good, she's good. [01:17:16] Speaker B: Smile two is good. [01:17:18] Speaker A: Smiles too. It was. I loved it. It was so fun. [01:17:21] Speaker B: I'm not using descriptive words, but, like, truly a breakthrough, like, for me and Naomi Scott. Like. [01:17:28] Speaker A: Yeah. Okay, so 2025, I'm going to say Train Dreams is going to be in the mix because I have been hearing a lot of buzz about it. It's Joel Edgerton, Felicity Jones, Kerry Condon, William H. Macy. [01:17:45] Speaker C: What's Guillermo's movie that's coming out this year? [01:17:48] Speaker B: Oh, Frankenstein. [01:17:48] Speaker C: Oh, yeah. Frankenstein. [01:17:50] Speaker A: Frankenstein, yes. Guillermo Definitely going to be in the mix for sure. I don't know about Opus. [01:17:56] Speaker B: I feel like I got, like, mixed reviews. [01:17:57] Speaker A: I've got mixed things about Opus. Yeah. But I think Train Dreams, Frankenstein for sure are going to be in the mix. [01:18:04] Speaker C: But I'm excited for these. These. These classic monsters. I think Nosferatu really did it. Really did it for me. And then now knowing we're getting Bride of Frankenstein, Frankenstein, and I didn't see Wolfman to talk about Wolf. We don't need to talk about it. [01:18:22] Speaker A: We don't talk about that. No, no. [01:18:24] Speaker C: But. [01:18:25] Speaker B: But we wish the best for Christopher Abbott. [01:18:26] Speaker A: Yes. We love him. [01:18:27] Speaker C: And love Julie Garner. [01:18:29] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:18:29] Speaker C: We love the two of the Two of them. [01:18:31] Speaker A: Yeah. Two of them. Just not Wolfman. [01:18:33] Speaker C: Yeah. [01:18:34] Speaker A: But I love you guys. Thank you so much for doing this. This is like a dream, truly. To nerd out with my and dissect the entire award show. [01:18:46] Speaker C: Yes. [01:18:47] Speaker A: This was truly a dream come true. So thank you guys so much for being here. [01:18:50] Speaker C: This was so wonderful. [01:18:51] Speaker A: And thank you guys for listening to the dish with Tish. We'll see you next week by.