Closed Off, Voted Off: Love Island Final Debrief

[00:00:00] Speaker A: Foreign river. Hello. Hello, Dishers. Welcome back to another episode of the Dish with Tish Love island edition. [00:00:24] Speaker B: That was cruel. [00:00:27] Speaker A: Wait, me singing or that part in the episode? Both. [00:00:29] Speaker B: Both. [00:00:32] Speaker A: You guys. We made it to the finale. We are freed from the Love Island Season 7 Curse the Shackles of this season. And I could not be happier with the outcome. I'm repping my Nicholandria. Okay. My dream team. I'm so happy with the outcome. I'm here with Meg again. Hi, Meg. [00:00:58] Speaker B: Hi. [00:00:58] Speaker A: I'm so excited to dish. It's 12:30. We just finished watching the finale and beyond the villa, and we are just going to get into it because there's so much that has happened and we need to process this together while we're recording for you guys. So as I always start the episode, we are just gonna be bopping and booping around here. So bear with us. I hope you're having a good week. How are you guys feeling about the finale? I doubt that anyone is feeling negatively about it, honestly, because I feel like that was the best case scenario. I will say I'm so happy that Amaya Papaya won. Her and Brian ending being exclusive, getting her little fairy tale looking like Cinderella. Truly, just so much gratitude and I'm so happy for our girl. Although, like, I'm slightly sad that Nicholandria did not win this season, but, you know, for my Nicholandria nation, first of all, I love you guys so much because the way you guys have been giving us so much life, it's been so much fun dishing with everyone. The beauty of this show is a, of course, people finding love, like the hopeless romantic is always rooting for that, but also the community that comes along with it and being able to talk and dissect every week, you know, having those group chats and just feeling so much more connected to people just through the show. Being able to talk to people about it forever and ever. You know, like the people who are really invested. It really is such a monoculture moment. And y' all know I love that. And it just makes me so happy. And that's the main thing that I'll miss about this season. Although, like, it pissed me off royally. Like, honestly, when it ended, I was telling the group of friends that I was watching it with, like, I felt like Nicole Kidman when she signed those divorce papers from Tom Cruise. Just like, oh, yeah. Like, I was just like, ooh, we're done. I can get back. I feel like we did get laid off from our full time jobs of Love Island. But, you know, I will take my stipend, okay. I will take my little settlement and go about my life. Because the way this has had me in a chokehold, even though I've been pissed as fuck, like, I'm just grateful that it's over and it ended in the best case scenario. How are you feeling right now? [00:03:58] Speaker B: I think I just feel the same. Although I love Amaya so much. I was low key weeping, like, actually crying. Maybe it's because they were playing chasing cars by Snow Patrol. Like, I don't fudgeing. Like, they shonda rhymed us with that. [00:04:17] Speaker A: Like, yeah, they said, this is what you want. This is. We're gonna give you all the feels. [00:04:23] Speaker B: I'm not watching Grey's Anatomy. Like, I don't need to be crying because of this song, but I'm crying anyway. It was so. I just. I just love how I think they've said it a million times on the show. How authentic she is, how she just does not care. We've said it a million times on this show. Just love her. I'm so happy for her. Brian's great. I'm not, like, obsessed with him, but I'm glad that she found him. And they seem to be very happy. I mean, Nicholandria will always be my winners to just. [00:05:01] Speaker A: They won. [00:05:02] Speaker B: They won. Like, they're gonna leave the villa and be like, oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Watching all those edits back. Oh, I can't. This is also my favorite season of love. This is my. Not my favorite season on tv of Love Island. This is my favorite season of Love island, the show. Because now we get to see them leave the villa. They're gonna document their lives at the airport and getting back to the states, and they're gon chronically online with us that it's gonna. It hasn't gone away. Everybody, I need you all to know the hype is not gone. We still get to see them live their lives, and now we get to see it in their every day. And I'm very excited about it on their terms. [00:05:47] Speaker A: You know, I just. I feel like with Michaelandria, like I said, we may not have won this season, but we started this ship before they were even together. You know, like, we saw it initially from the beginning. I mean, they were the first. They were each other's first kiss in the villa, and they were each other's last. And when I realized that, I was like, I mean, I've literally been saying this since day one. Shout out to Bryn, my girl. Bryn. Because we literally. Bryn was Amaya from the jump. From the beginning, she was like, let her cook. And I was like, I don't know. Well, we'll see. But she was like, no, I like her. There's something about her. So she was on a winning team. And I just knew Nick and Alandria. I was like, you don't just keep kissing the same person over and over for there to not be anything. I feel like this season proved that we as a society, like the people who are watching, genuinely yearn for. For a rom com. Friends to lovers, arc like, genuinely just wanting to see someone be chivalrous and court them and listen and be patient. And something Nick said was like, we've gone about this a little unconventionally. And I said, no, brother, no. You're actually doing this the right way. And our society has gotten so off track of what is normal because of Tinder and all these hinge, all of that. Like, people just want to talk on an app, go on a date. Like, each other's stories on Instagram. Like, it's not about courting someone. It's not about getting to know someone. Like, some of the people I was with, like, they were like, I don't know. It feels forced. And I'm like, have you ever fallen in love with your best friend or like a good friend? Because I have. And let me tell you, it is exactly how they are acting. It is. You're so comfortable with them. You already have the rapport. You can do all the things. You skipped, all the bullshit, you skipped all of that. You already know each other. You have the most solid foundation. When you start that way and then it kind of shifts because it's like, whoa, did you feel that? Like, are we, like, into each other? When he was talking about getting the flutters and, like, how he feels like a teenager, like a little kid. That's what it is. You're literally. It feels like high school. And Taylor Swift has this song called so High School. And it's like, I feel so high school every time I look at you, because you're literally, like, so giddy. And it's like you feel crazy. Like, you're just like, oh, my God, I can't believe this is happening. Like, this is my really good friend. And now we're taking this to another level. And it really does make you feel genuinely like a little kid. And I just. It's not unconventional the way that they went. I feel like people miss that, and I think that's why they are so special on Top of everything else. Like for me, it's a mix of the hopeless romantic. Oh my God, my voice sounds crazy. When I was watching the show, I was, I'm a very active watcher, so I was screaming like it was the fucking Super Bowl. But people are yearning for the yearning and the longing and the chivalry, all of that. And also for me, it's another layer of this dark skinned woman just being adored and choosing herself and putting herself first and just being worshiped like the queen that she is. And the way that he looks at her, it just like we were texting. [00:09:50] Speaker B: During this finale and you're like, I'm with the naysayers. And I'm like, wait, wait, wait, what? And as you're texting me that I'm watching their date and I'm like, how can they see him looking at her the way that he does and not think that this feels genuine? He's, he's like, he is undressing her with his eyes. He is envisioning the future. It's all the whole freaking package. You can see it in his pupils. If we're gonna go back to the pupils of it all, mate, it's the. [00:10:24] Speaker A: Pupils and the teeth. When you're showing all 32, when you're smiling, girl, it's a full season, like literally beaming a smile that's all the way up to the eyes. [00:10:37] Speaker B: Gums are showing, gums are showing. Gummy smile, girl. You're trying to get gummy in her. [00:10:45] Speaker A: Is this in her? Is this, is this a dental appointment? Like, say, because you are cheesing. You're like, girl, that's love. Okay? That's love. I just can't, I just don't think it's fake. I just, Just having experience. Falling in love with someone that you're really close to. [00:11:08] Speaker B: Is this you trying to tell me that you're in love with me? I just need to know. [00:11:15] Speaker A: Well, I mean, it's crazy that you brought that up because you wanna kiss me. I think you're gorgeous. I wanna love me. Oh my God. Okay, so first off, the dates were great. I, I honestly, almost all of them were great. Almost. Oh, gosh. [00:11:40] Speaker B: Great TV all around. I'll say. [00:11:42] Speaker A: Great TV all around. That's. I think that's more so what I meant, but I feel like I could tell who the top two were going to be based off of the dates because Amaya and Brian's was so personal. Like, you're showing baby pics. That's our fucking winners. Hello. That's intimacy. That is, like, so personal and real. Showing favorite pictures and memories and things like that. That's. Those are our winners. And then Nickelandria. Their date was so personal to the messages in the bottles. Reading those from the fans, tears started to fall. Oh, my gosh. Yeah. That was so sweet. And, like, seeing those messages from the fans and their families, I was like, okay, right? They're. They're in it. They were. [00:12:34] Speaker B: Their private island was in the middle of all of my liquid from my body. [00:12:39] Speaker A: Like, we got a drone mountain shot make out. Are you kidding me? Are you kidding? [00:12:47] Speaker B: They did us so good with that. I also would love. I always think. I thought this one. I was watching the Bachelor once upon a time when I was in Bachelor Nation. I would love to be a PA on these shows and be able to set up the dates. It must be just so fun being like, okay, and we're gonna choose this little message that they sent and put it in the sand right here, and then we're gonna. I just love that it seems so, so fun to just be a part of them falling for each other. Be like, you could be like, I was a part of that love story. [00:13:20] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:13:21] Speaker B: Loved their date. [00:13:22] Speaker A: Those were definitely the best dates. And I felt like Pepe and Iris, it's like they went sailing. I don't think they said anything of substance on their date. They really. I'm like, these two just really want to fuck. [00:13:36] Speaker B: I think that's it. [00:13:38] Speaker A: They. They really need to have sex. And, I mean, they both are in California, so May. There is some potential there. I mean, I don't know. Like, when he said, I couldn't have pictured leaving with anyone else but you, I was like, okay, girl. What? I don't think that's it at all. [00:13:59] Speaker B: Because, what, two. Not even a week ago, you were talking about how much you wish Tana didn't leave, like, like at the stand on business challenge, sir. [00:14:12] Speaker A: And even their families, like, for family Day, it. There wasn't a big spark between their families. Like, it was very, very. Like, the cameras are on us, so we can't really say what we want to say. [00:14:27] Speaker B: Yes. I think the producers always tell the families, like, no matter how you feel about this person, you have to say you support because it's the end and we need it to work out. And, yeah, we know with one couple that didn't really follow through to the way the producers wanted, I'm sure. Which we'll get to. But my God, I think with Iris and Pepe, I just think that they're Listen, they're so hot, okay? They're some of the hottest people I think I've ever seen. And Pepe might be what looks like the best kisser, I think, on Love island history. Like, he just has the little. I. I'm. I'm not. [00:15:04] Speaker A: Your. [00:15:04] Speaker B: Your eyes popped. I'm being so serious. His little pillow lips. I would love to kiss him night and day. Just obsessed. But I think he might be really boring. And she also isn't that exciting either. She seems very nice and sweet, but she doesn't seem, like, crazy, kooky, quirky. I don't know. [00:15:28] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:15:28] Speaker B: And I think they just both live in each other's, like, mellowness. Maybe it's mellow. Maybe not boring. Maybe it's just more mellow. There's just no fire, I feel. [00:15:40] Speaker A: Not at all. Not at all. And then, of course, Kristin Huda's date. [00:15:48] Speaker B: Question mark. [00:15:50] Speaker A: Yeah. I mean, I feel like Huda's fans did her a disservice by keeping her over Shelly and Ace because they essentially forced her to become the only woman in Love island history to have to break up with someone on a final date and be the only person in a friendship couple. [00:16:20] Speaker B: And never before have we seen that. [00:16:22] Speaker A: Never have we seen that in Love island history on any franchise. Not just. [00:16:27] Speaker B: My mouth was agape. I was like, is this really, like, what are they going to do? Is this really happening? [00:16:33] Speaker A: Right? And I just feel like her fans, like, as much as they wanted her to stay, I feel like it would have been probably better if they did that offline. And instead of having to do it on camera and then be so uncomfortable and then the production is so. They saw how this, this conversation was going and they said, okay, cue, cue the sinker. Moon River. I'm like, y' all are so fucking petty. [00:17:06] Speaker B: The way that I'm imagining that woman waiting in the behind the scenes, looking at the producers like, should I. Do I still go? Do I? Do you want me to go out there still? And they're like, push her on. Like, go, go, go do it. And she's like, o. Oh, it's so awkward. And again, some of the best television I think I've ever seen. Cause it was so cringe worthy. [00:17:34] Speaker A: It was so cringe. And I'm like, he wanted her to be the one to do it, but obviously he felt that way too. [00:17:43] Speaker B: Yes. [00:17:44] Speaker A: And I almost felt like he was making it so she was the bad guy. And it's like, obviously you feel this way too. So just like, say it like Ethan from Family date. He was like, I don't know if I want her to meet my family. And that's something I don't know. I feel like Love island should learn from this season and people should vote based off having all the information because I think if people would have seen that Ace and Shelley would have been in the finale and I genuinely feel like we. As much as I could not stand Ace, I feel like he definitely was a major player and why the season was so wonky for so long because he was playing it so much as a game. [00:18:35] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:18:35] Speaker A: But I do think that we were robbed of the potential of, like, imagine Ace and Shelley on the Chris and Huda date. That would be great. Really, really cute. And we were robbed of a Shelly dress. Oh. A finale dress. You know, she would have turned it out. There was so much missed opportunity, as Amaya would say in the finale, by not having Ace and Shelly in there. Yeah. And it's because we didn't have all the information going into that, though. And it was a little too late. [00:19:13] Speaker B: As much as I think anyone who's been listening avidly to the Dish with Tish Love Island Edition knows how I feel about a screen in himself, but I do 100 agree it. As much as I might dislike some islanders, they do deserve to be in that final at a certain point because they had such a. They were closed off, they were exclusive. Like, that's the kind of energy we need, not a fucking breakup. Like, what? What the. [00:19:45] Speaker A: I was so bummed out. I honestly was just so, just. As someone who has been watching this show for so long, I was like, this is not what the show is about. No. I just feel like we completely lost the plot. I don't know if next year they need to make it so over 18 or 21 to vote. Like, if you can't vote in the election, you should not be voting for this because they hijacked it. They literally hijacked it by keeping Huda in and wanting to see crash outs and drama and like, that's not this show. If you want that, you need to be watching baddies, House of Villains, the traitors. [00:20:33] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:20:33] Speaker A: You know what I mean. Survivor, like, Love island is not that. Like we've said a million times. We just want to see these bitches find love, eat avocados, toast, sit on a bean bag, go on dates. Like, we're not trying to do all that. Like, I was so checked out by the end of their date because I just was bummed out because I just was like, damn, this is not what this is supposed to be. This is not what the experience experiment is. And I, I appreciate Huda for putting herself out there, leaving her kid, trying something, you know, but I think she still needs so much more work to do outside of the villa. She grew a lot. She did. We did see a lot of growth. But I'm also like, girl, you need to heal. I just feel like you have this guy who's in front of you who is literally, like, trying so hard. Yes, Literally. Like, how can I be with you? Like, I. I saw you crash out and everything that happened with someone else. And I still want to try to make this work. And she just could not do that. [00:21:45] Speaker B: She just wasn't listening to anything he was saying. She literally can't. [00:21:50] Speaker A: And I know Virgos, like, they are very dramatic and they blow stuff up and they have that ability to, like, spin it. Like they're confronting you about an issue they have with you, and they somehow spin it to where you're the problem. Yeah, she needs someone who could put her in her place. But also it's like, excuse this man who is just trying to have boundaries and be respectful and has emotional maturity and is emotionally intelligent and, like, you can't even meet him halfway. I'm like, that's just like wanting to be in a toxic relationship. Like, you're like, I want someone who's obsessed with me. But when he tried to kiss you, you turn him away, right? You're like, I'm all about physical touch. And it's like he literally tried to kiss you and you turned him away. And then he's sleeping and you're like, come on, come on. And she's like, I don't think this is gonna work physically. And it's like he was trying to go to bed. [00:22:50] Speaker B: Like, he was just trying to fucking sleep. [00:22:53] Speaker A: And y' all have had sex every other night that you've been together, so it's like, I don't understand what. More physically, you're having sex and you're in a room with like eight other people. So it's like, I mean, of course he's not going to be able to, like, lay it the fuck down because, I mean, you got to, like, have some kind of respected decorum. Like, you're in a room full of people and you're on camera and also a try to go to sleep. Let him go to bed. Like, I don't. [00:23:23] Speaker B: Let him get some shut eye. [00:23:26] Speaker A: I mean, it's just the, the anxious attachment style. [00:23:30] Speaker B: I'm like, oh, like, what did you. [00:23:32] Speaker A: Say last week she gave him the coochie and she went kooky. [00:23:37] Speaker B: That's exactly what it is. Her counting down. I'm gonna give you till three. Like, that was worse than the breakup date for. For me, like, that was so bad. How can she not see that? That is unacceptable behavior, Dude. [00:23:52] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:23:53] Speaker B: Like, I. I just hope that she does not use this. You know, she's like, consistently talking about how she's grown so much in the past six weeks, and it's like, okay, great. But I don't want her to rely on this being the only form of quote, work that she's done on herself. Like, this isn't even scraping the surface of what you need to do, B. Like, you need to go get some support. [00:24:19] Speaker A: You need to heal. She needs to heal. [00:24:22] Speaker B: Right? And just know that, like, what you were saying before. Toxic living in this toxic relationship seems to be the only thing that she's ever known. And when it comes to relationships. So she doesn't understand when it's healthy. And I feel so sad that she's never experienced that. And I. And I. I really hope that she does. I hope that or not that even she kind of did. She just did experience it. She just didn't accept it. And I hope that she accepts it at some point down the line, hopefully sooner rather than later, because she's not an awful person. She just has trauma, it seems like, and she just needs to fudgeing work on it. [00:25:03] Speaker A: So, yeah, like, I feel like Huda could not do the nicolandrea approach. I feel like she would, like, go crazy. She would not like that at all. No. [00:25:15] Speaker B: She doesn't know how to be friends with someone first. That. [00:25:17] Speaker A: No, that's not a thing. She's like head. Head first dive in. [00:25:21] Speaker B: Yes. Like, she's not even a real good girl's girlfriend to her actual friends. How can she be friends with someone in a relationship first? Like, that's hard for me to. To believe. I'm sorry. She needs to be friends with herself, then friends with other people and then friends with romantic relationships. [00:25:39] Speaker A: Relationship. Yeah. [00:25:40] Speaker B: That's the steps coming from your resident therapist. That is not certified. On the dish with Tish Love Island Edition, Megan Flood. Thank you. [00:25:49] Speaker A: Yeah, like, I understand, like, her and Amaya are close. And obviously Amaya is such a genuine person and, like, she wouldn't keep someone around like that. That was not like a good person, you know, And I'm sure they have a good relationship. But like you said, love yourself, love your friends, and then you could start exploring Other things healthily, like, I don't know, I. I want to be courted. I want someone to like me for me. And I think that's the thing too. Like, because she is so pretty and I think she's used to people just being obsessed with her. And Chris as much as he did like her. And I feel like he's gave her so much reassurance in their couple. I feel like it wasn't enough because she's used to guys like going crazy over her. And Chris was like, I'm a catch too. Like, I'm not trying to do all that. Like, I'm going to meet you. I'm willing to meet you more than halfway. But like when you're counting 3, 2, 1. Like you said, I'm a grown ass man, girl. [00:26:57] Speaker B: Truly. I think the thing is she has only known a love bomb. It seems that the only guy she's ever been with love bombed her. And that's what she's associating with, being obsessed with her. And there's other ways to be obsessed with you other than hanging on you, touching on you, telling you how much they're telling you how much they're obsessed with you within the first three dates. You know, like classic love bomb behavior. That's all she seems to know. And again, I hope that she finds someone that. I hope that she accepts that love that's not being completely overwhelming her in that way. [00:27:41] Speaker A: No, that makes so much sense. I definitely. That, yeah, I think that is it because I feel like this, what she. I mean, she had her kid during COVID Young mom that probably does a number on YouTube. Like you have a baby and no one could come in the room with you. [00:28:05] Speaker B: Yeah, man, I didn't even think about that. [00:28:08] Speaker A: You know what I mean? Like, I feel like there's a lot of layers to her story, right? And I, I have empathy for her, but I'm also like, girl, you take a step back, take a step back. That's all. [00:28:21] Speaker B: I mean, like do the, do the cupid shuffle like one hop this time. Boop. Like back yeah, bitch. [00:28:26] Speaker A: And I appreciate her because I'll. I'll take a huda over someone being disingenuous. Like, I'll take a huda over a Sierra. You know, someone who is very performative and like very. Also something I found out about Sierra tonight is that she used to work for onlyfans corporate. And I felt like that made so much sense to me because onlyfans, especially the corporate side in sales, you have to know how to talk you're trying to sell this. It's not like pornhub. Like, you have to know how to talk and sell. [00:29:05] Speaker B: Salesperson. Yeah. [00:29:06] Speaker A: Yes. And that also makes sense with the Sierra of it all, which we can kind of get into that a little bit. I do kind of want to talk about a little bit. Bit of the stuff that happened this week before the finale. I mean, Sarah's apology, or. It wasn't even an apology. It was. It wasn't even an apology. It was an accountability video in her empath sweatshirt. Again, finding out she's in OnlyFans corporate. I said that checks out because this girl is just reading off of a script. First of all, I wish she would have taken more than 48 hours to sit with it. [00:29:49] Speaker B: 72 to a week, babe. [00:29:51] Speaker A: Like, longer than that. I honestly, I feel like she should have waited a little bit to say anything, and it just made it worse. And it just. Again, it's so inauthentic. There's no way. You are just this chill, cool, breezy. Nothing bothers you. You're taking accountability. Like, be a human. Like, as much as Huda pissed me the fuck off this season, I think she was very toxic. She grew a lot, but she's. That's a cup of tea I would not drink. That's. That's a tea bag I would leave in the pouch. That's the book I leave on the shelf. [00:30:34] Speaker B: Amaya, is that you? [00:30:35] Speaker A: Yeah. I'll take a hoota over the Sierra of it all, because I just feel like she's just so fucking fake. [00:30:42] Speaker B: Totally. And I feel like even, like, how we talk about Amaya and how we're like, she showed up 100% authentic, 100% herself. As much as we don't like authentic Huda, she showed up in that same energy and didn't vibe with us, but. But she's not trying to be someone that she's not. We're just recognizing she needs to grow. Right. And Sierra is nowhere in that. Like, we. If we're going to give Amaya those props, we have to give Huda those props. And Sierra doesn't align in there at all. [00:31:15] Speaker A: Not at all. And we had family day, which was so great. And even with family day with Huda, her sisters. Gorgeous. [00:31:25] Speaker B: Yes. [00:31:25] Speaker A: So pretty. But I also was kind of like, when she asked, like, sir, anything I did, I was like, y' all not gonna hold her a little bit accountable. So then I was kind of like, well, it also makes sense why she's like that, because she doesn't have anyone or maybe they'll tell her offline, I don't know. Yeah, but it just seems like she. Maybe she doesn't have people to be like, babe, oh my God. [00:31:51] Speaker B: I think she's definitely got 70 million people that are going to tell her now. So, I mean, I feel like probably the producers were like, hey, keep it lively, you know, keep it a little sprite. Because again, we have to. We have to finish this out on a good note. But I do agree there could have been a little more. No, no, it really. [00:32:14] Speaker A: The funny part. They tried. They. Forced. Talk about forced. [00:32:20] Speaker B: There's gonna be some major planning that's gonna happen with the Peacock production team over the course of the next year. People are getting fired. Like, let's look out for some. You know what we should do? We got to look out for some cat not casting. Well, maybe cast us. That'd be fun. But like, we gotta look out for some. You're like, no, no, I want to go on the villa. Like, I. I would 100% walk in there, jiggly thighs and all. I'd be like, come kiss me. Put your lips on my lips. Really sloppy. [00:32:59] Speaker A: And I. And I would watch you from my couch and say, look at my friend go. Look. [00:33:05] Speaker B: They wouldn't want me, though. I be. It wouldn't be like my chubby. It would be that I'm 32 and they think I'm old. [00:33:12] Speaker A: Oh, for sure. Oh, for sure. [00:33:14] Speaker B: The number of times a 30 year old or even 29 year old goes on this show. And like a 22 year old's like, oh, you look so good for 29. [00:33:22] Speaker A: 30. Oh, my God. I'm like, oh, God, Yeah. [00:33:27] Speaker B: Anyway, Family Day was cute. I never like those episodes. They actually don't resonate with me that much. I'm like, I want to see more. I don't. I don't care about the families. I really don't. But I was. I could not wait for Nick and Alandria's family. To me, that's all I cared about. And I cried with everybody, even more than Nick and Alandria, like, extended. I was crying with all the other families, all the other people. I was so connected in that episode. More than I ever have in my entire watching of Love island since the beginning. [00:34:00] Speaker A: Yeah, no, I was so invested in this family visit more than any of the other ones I've seen because, I mean, I literally was waiting with bated breath for Alandria and Nick's family, specifically Nick's sister and mom, to meet Alandria and It was above and beyond. I wish we could have seen more of it. There was a picture that got released of them all talking, and I was like, damn, where the fuck is that? Because I would have loved to have seen that full conversation. But just Nick's mom being like, oh, my God, we saved the best for last. And Alandra being like, hi. And like, oh, her being like, I was rooting for you. And just. I feel like when Alandria spoke to her mom, that's when she got that confirmation. Like, go for it. Like, do the damn thing. Like, this man is all you, and you need to really give this a chance. I think that's when she said, okay, this is for real. For real. Like, I think she was waiting on that. And now I. Hopefully by the reunion, they're a fish. [00:35:19] Speaker B: That would be so nice. That would be just. It's in, what, two weeks? Next week. Two weeks. [00:35:25] Speaker A: I don't even know it's in. It's August 25th. We got, like, a month. [00:35:29] Speaker B: Oh, my God, you're right. I was thinking it was gonna be July 25th. [00:35:33] Speaker A: No. [00:35:34] Speaker B: Oh, no. That's awful news. [00:35:36] Speaker A: Now I know we've got, like, a month. [00:35:39] Speaker B: Well, yeah. Okay, so a month for them to develop their relationship. [00:35:45] Speaker A: Yes. Because that's another thing he did say. He did say connection with their relationship. Our relationship. [00:35:53] Speaker B: And I got. And I'm hard. [00:35:57] Speaker A: And I'm hard. I'm gonna be with for hours. Oh, my God. Like, oh, speaking of Alandria's mom. [00:36:07] Speaker B: Oh. [00:36:11] Speaker A: Family. [00:36:11] Speaker B: Because that booty. That boot. Juicy, juicy booty. We're gonna see a Thanksgiving dinner with Nick at the family, and he's gonna carry both of them on either shoulder with their. Both of their asses sticking out. [00:36:26] Speaker A: He. He would. He wouldn't be able to walk it. It'd be covering up his eyes. [00:36:31] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:36:31] Speaker A: Just because the Laird that. That saying is thanking she. If you could see her from the front. Wait till you see her from the bag. Bag, bag, bag, bag. Like, thicker than a fucking snicker, my guy. Holy shit. Okay, Like, Aladriga's mom is bodied down. Okay. Category is body Megan. [00:36:54] Speaker B: Thee stallion is like, we need to invite her to the next working competition. Motherfucker. [00:37:00] Speaker A: Girl with their coffee mate. I was screaming. [00:37:04] Speaker B: The blatant product placement in this season. [00:37:07] Speaker A: It was so funny. [00:37:09] Speaker B: So funny. [00:37:09] Speaker A: When my skin's really acting up, I use Sarah Vay. And I just feel like it really helps so much when I'm just breaking out. [00:37:19] Speaker B: You know what? They got to make money somehow, right? What if Michael Sarah walked up in there. What if Michael Sarah with the Sarah VAY ad walked up and he's like, hey, I'm the new bombshell. [00:37:29] Speaker A: They'd be like, who the fuck is that? [00:37:32] Speaker B: It wouldn't even know. [00:37:33] Speaker A: They wouldn't even know who he is. [00:37:34] Speaker B: No, don't say that. [00:37:35] Speaker A: No, no. I know. [00:37:37] Speaker B: I'm gonna go puke. [00:37:39] Speaker A: Oh, God. No, they probably would. Maybe some of them. I don't know. [00:37:44] Speaker B: The 29 and 30 year olds who look good for their age would. [00:37:48] Speaker A: Yeah, well. And that was no one in the villa. [00:37:50] Speaker B: No, there was literally. I don't think anyone was over 27. [00:37:54] Speaker A: Another family thing that was cute was Amaya and Brian, like starting off the family visits. I thought that was really sweet. And Ace and Shelly's family was very cute too. I loved Shelly's mom. I thought she was so cute. Her dad, like, I texted you a man a few words. A man of zero words, disassociated. And probably most of the time, yeah, buddy. But they were very cute. I was again just bummed to see them leave after seeing that episode because I just feel like they really could have even just being there. I don't know, I just felt like that would have been nice. But who knows? We probably wouldn't have got Nick and Alandria as runners up, so. But things we want to change for next season. [00:38:46] Speaker B: Yes. Take note, producers. Here we go. [00:38:49] Speaker A: I'm gonna say I think we should do 25 and up. Even 20, maybe 24 and up. You know, as much as we love a hot like, I don't. I don't need that. I don't know, I just feel like your low pass to be damn near close to being formed. [00:39:06] Speaker B: Fully formed. Yeah. [00:39:08] Speaker A: Before you could be on this show, between the public ridicule you're gonna get how to navigate these relationships. I feel like you got to have a little, like a little more years under your belts. [00:39:21] Speaker B: Totally agree. [00:39:22] Speaker A: What's something you want to add we. [00:39:24] Speaker B: Need to add back in movie night? No question. I need movie night back. I'm watching. I know you're watching UK right now. And it's going. Everything is aligning as it should. All of the regular things are coming through and it's giving all of the love island that we want. And movie night is probably already happened in the uk, but it's the next episode that we're getting in the US And I'm so excited for it because, God, I need it back in the U. I need it back in the U.S. i know, it just. It It. I feel like it just helps create the chaos to the clarity, the two Cs. Chaos to clarity. Because for sure, see all the things that other people have been saying about them, doing around them without them knowing. And then they mend because they've seen it. I don't know. I need Movie Night back. [00:40:21] Speaker A: They tried to switch it up with the stand on business. [00:40:25] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:40:25] Speaker A: By doing that versus the movie night. And they should have just done Movie Night. That was just cool. The formula has literally been working. Like, if it ain't broke, don't fucking fix it. Y' all were doing way too much. And that's actually when people started turning on Shelly. And Alandria was, like, around that. And they got so much hate. And that's a thing, too. Like, some of Huda's Fans hacked Alandria's TikTok. [00:40:58] Speaker B: That was her. That was Huda's fans? [00:41:00] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:41:01] Speaker B: Oh, no. [00:41:02] Speaker A: And they posted this really sick screen grab of Huda. They put Huda's face over Derek and Alandria as George Floyd. And I'm like, you guys, are you kidding me? No, I have the picture. I refuse to post it. But I did take a screenshot because I'm like, this is the shit that I. And I was saying, you know, I just hope that Huda, like Lia, did last year, tells her fans, y' all need to chill the fuck out. Because they tried to do it to Sarita and Janae, and Leah said, no, we're not gonna fucking do that. Y' all need to get it the fuck together, because you're not gonna disrespect my fucking friends like that. [00:41:47] Speaker B: That's evil. [00:41:49] Speaker A: It's evil. It's vile. It's more than losing the pot. It's like, you need to log off. I can't even articulate. You need to seek medical attention, because if you think that that's normal or funny to do, then you're gonna have a tough time in the real world, because chances are you're a kid. You're like some kid who thinks this is funny, but it's like, these are actually people. Of course I love the discourse. I love talking about what's happening on the show, how goofy some of their decisions are and all of that. I know that they're still people, right? I know that they still, like, have feelings and they're gonna see some of this stuff. Like, it's one thing to talk with your friends and Kiki, but it's another thing to publicly. It's not even disrespect. To publicly violate someone like that. I just think that, again, I feel like her fans just have done her such a disservice by a lot of their behavior. And another thing that I think that. Oh, my God, I'm sorry. I was literally screaming at the tv. My voice for listeners. I. Again, I'm. I apologize. I think that they should take a play out of Australia's book for the voting. And I don't know if you watch Australia, but for the voting. [00:43:18] Speaker B: Never watched Australia. [00:43:19] Speaker A: Oh, I love Australia. Australia's really good. But for their voting, it's super fans. Ooh. So you have. [00:43:28] Speaker B: How does that work? [00:43:29] Speaker A: So basically you have to be, I believe you have to be at least 18 and you have watched every season. Like, you have to be a dedicated fan. They probably have like a quiz or something. I'm not sure. I mean, I don't know. I'm not like in Australia and I'm not like in the. [00:43:50] Speaker B: You're like, I don't know. I'm not a fucking Australian. [00:43:53] Speaker A: No, I'm not in Australia now currently. But there's some kind of way to prove that you're a super fan. And I do think that they should do something like that. It's not just people. Oh, this is your first season. Oh, you're some dumb ass kid. You can vote on your phone, your iPad. No, like, it should be people who know the formula and how it works. What's another thing for you? [00:44:15] Speaker B: Well, I was just gonna say, even going off that if the, if we use kind of what you said before, of folks can only be on the show if they're like 25, 26 and up, that actually makes the viewers not inclined to watch if they're teenagers or super young age. So it helps kind of balance out that, like voting so emotionally like that. [00:44:44] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:44:44] Speaker B: I was even thinking earlier about how people have been voting for everybody across this season and it's even Amaya being the winner or Pepe and Irises, because I feel like Pepe has been a favorite, a fan favorite for the last few weeks. People have been voting more on that individual basis. They're voting for that singular person in the couple as opposed to the couple. So maybe less of that emotional voting would help with maybe the older voters. I don't, I don't know. I mean, we're. I'm. I'm 32 and I'm emotionally emotional all the time. I don't know what the fuck I'm talking about. [00:45:24] Speaker A: Yeah, but you know how the show works, that you're not voting based off individuals. [00:45:28] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:45:29] Speaker A: Voting off of couples potential. Like, as much as I did not like Ace, I still think him and Shelly should have been in the finale. [00:45:38] Speaker B: And even Taylor and Clark. Like, I didn't really like Taylor, but I did like Clark. But even so, looking at their relationship, they were the story strongest in the villa when they left and they had the least amount of time out of everybody. You know, like they. It should have been Huda and Chris should have been exchanged with Shelly and Ace and Iris and Pepe should have been exchanged with Clark and Taylor. And that final four would have been. [00:46:02] Speaker A: Perfect because even if you think about like the Bachelor, there's not a lot of young kids who are in Bachelor nation watching that. And that's because like, yo, for the most part the. The contestants are at least 24. And it, like you said, it removes some of the emotional like it. I felt like this season was and it's just a testament to what a fucking trash fire this season was because it was so individual based versus couples and potential and actual connections. [00:46:42] Speaker B: And I mean, listen, okay, not to go back to rag on Ace at all because again, he should have been in the finale, but he created that environment I do have. [00:46:53] Speaker A: Sure did. [00:46:53] Speaker B: He was fueling the fire of, oh, well, we're gonna get rid of this person because they made a connection. So I think I said this to you the other night after they got dumped. I was like, well, he made. He set up the equation that got him eliminated because he made a connection. And then everyone said bye, even though it was technically the public's vote as opposed to the people in the villa. But karma's bitch, right? [00:47:18] Speaker A: I mean, literally. [00:47:19] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:47:20] Speaker A: Vote closed off, voted off. That's the tagline of the season. Well, you've really explored that connection. So we think it's. [00:47:28] Speaker B: So we think you need to explore a different one. But not us. But not us. [00:47:32] Speaker A: Yeah. And not in this villa. But you've been so blessed to have be leaving with your head held high with that connection by yourself. We wish you luck. And you're so lucky. [00:47:44] Speaker B: Go make a connection with the TSA agent when you're going through security. Like, have fun. [00:47:49] Speaker A: Yeah. You're really going to look back on this time so fondly with that connection that she made. [00:47:57] Speaker B: Like what the logic. The math isn't mathing. So I just, I guess my last sentiment on hopes for next year and changes. Get back to the formula that works. Okay. Get back to. To the formula that works because the chaos will ensue, the good drama that we. It will happen and it always does. That's why season six was good because they went, the formula was there and they just did a great job casting and then it all flowed perfectly. And now they have a spin off. [00:48:28] Speaker A: Right? Right. [00:48:29] Speaker B: Who would have thunk? [00:48:29] Speaker A: And I feel like this season was so heavily produced, like more than any season that I can think of where they literally had to create these situations because it got so off the rails. And I think because this was the first season with, you know, everyone starting from the jump in America, that it just totally went off the rails. [00:48:57] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:48:58] Speaker A: And I also think my last thing for. I want for next season. Let's bring back some normies. Give. [00:49:06] Speaker B: Yes. Give me a birdie. Give me a fucking six birdies. [00:49:13] Speaker A: Okay. Please. Even in the UK right now, like, of course there is an element of like, you're going to have some kind of relevancy in the zeitgeist after you're on a show like this. Like, right, you have to be prepared for the fame element. But you've got a cab driver, right. You've got a fucking financial advisor, you've got a fucking teacher, you've got a nurse. Like, you've got people who are not like, oh, I'm an influencer. That's all I do. Like, there are people who are just genuinely looking for love. [00:49:47] Speaker B: And it's not like a. A nurse and a model or it's not like, you know, I'm a marine biologist. Someone was. Someone was a biologist a couple seasons ago. And a model. Like, we need someone who's just grounded in being a real ass human all the time. [00:50:05] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:50:05] Speaker B: And not working for OnlyFans Corporate. [00:50:08] Speaker A: Right. I feel like this season more than anything has shown us that we want authenticity. We want you to be your fucking self, let your freak flag fly, crash out, do whatever, but just be genuine in it. And we also want yearning. We want a good rom com in real life. Like the Nickelandria Nation. We saw the signs. We built this brick by brick and manifested it because it was like, this is fanfic come to life. This is truly Shonda Rhimes style of romance that I think we all are craving. So between those two, I feel like the biggest things closed off, voted off authenticity and yearning. Those are the biggest takeaways of season seven. [00:51:03] Speaker B: And cast better people. Like, do some better people and do some better vetting. [00:51:08] Speaker A: Also that because if we can find this shit out within, finding out who's on the show before they even get in the villa, we're finding out this shit. What is casting doing? What is production doing? Right? Like, we had so much of that this season. That's what. Again, I feel like the casting. I mean, I do feel like that casting director. Like, you about to lose your job. You about to lose your job. Bye. Like, you are not. Your watch has ended. Time is up. [00:51:45] Speaker B: You are the weakest link. [00:51:46] Speaker A: Goodbye. [00:51:48] Speaker B: The kids wouldn't even get that shit. That's. [00:51:50] Speaker A: That's the set. [00:51:51] Speaker B: That's sad. [00:51:52] Speaker A: Yeah. They're like, what does that mean? Yeah. Overall, I am happy with Amaya winning. I think she deserved it. She's such a sweetheart. And I hope that her and Brian really work it out and stay together. I hope that Nickelandria really makes it work. I mean, his speech for her, the final two speeches, they were really crying. They had me crying. They had me crying. They really had me fucking crying. They were so heartfelt. I just was screaming at the tv, like, yes. Like, this is. This is what I signed up for. This is the defibrillator, too. Because like I said after Huda and Chris's date, I just was like, I hate this. But then seeing those speeches and their dates, it was, like, clear. Like, I was, like, clear. It was like breathing life back into me. Because seriously, I was like, so over it after that fucking day. I'm like, who about to swim back to shore? Because he not going to carry her. He not going to give her a piggyback. She going to have to swim back to get off this fucking dinner table. [00:53:06] Speaker B: I can't believe they made them stay and do that. Like, I really thought they were about to just have a final three. That was weird that they even kept them after they broke up. [00:53:15] Speaker A: Yeah. Cause I'm like, what are these speeches even gonna be? I mean, his speech was nice, but I was scared for a second. I thought he was about to chew her ass up. I also hate that production cut so much. Nicholandria kisses. [00:53:29] Speaker B: We were robbed, bitch. [00:53:31] Speaker A: Like, I hate when we would cut to them in the confessional, Nick has a tale that he has made out with the land area because, A, he looked drunk as fuck. [00:53:42] Speaker B: That's right. He's drunk in love. [00:53:43] Speaker A: Yeah, he's drunk in love, looking dazed and confused. And also, he's got a contour on his face after kissing her because the makeup is all over is pasty boy. [00:53:56] Speaker B: And it just pops. [00:53:57] Speaker A: Oh, my gosh. So I'm like, okay, I'm gonna need y' all to do, like an after son or something of just unedited raw footage of Nicholandria, Wait, can we actually talk about that challenge? [00:54:08] Speaker B: Because that challenge, that was some of their best kisses. The way he licks up her abdomen. [00:54:15] Speaker A: The way. Where'd he go? Where'd he go? And she said, oh. [00:54:20] Speaker B: The way she grabs his hair as he's licking. Oh, my God. I'm like, I'm gonna need to excuse myself. Oh, my. Jesus Christ. [00:54:27] Speaker A: No, it's. It's. It's Spank Bank. [00:54:29] Speaker B: There were some edits from that I've watched an unhealthy amount of time. [00:54:33] Speaker A: Unhealthy? [00:54:35] Speaker B: Like, at this point, it's like the edits are stepping on my neck. Like, I can't. [00:54:40] Speaker A: Oh, it's sick. [00:54:41] Speaker B: It's all I care about. [00:54:42] Speaker A: It's all I care about. I literally don't know what I'm gonna do without them. I'm hoping that we get some tick tocks and things of them outside. I hope they are just. Oh, I just need them to couple up for real. Oh, my God. [00:54:56] Speaker B: You know what? We're gonna get edits of them posting each other on the. Their stories, you know, because they're gonna, like, really, really fall in love. I think they're gonna be together forever. And then we're just gonna get edits of them living their life. And then when she gives birth to little Marcel and Hilton, we'll get edits of that. Of her birth. [00:55:18] Speaker A: Or they'll be on beyond the Villa and they'll join that cast. And that'll be cute. [00:55:25] Speaker B: That would be fun just to have some of the newbies join them. [00:55:29] Speaker A: But only select few. [00:55:30] Speaker B: Only select few. [00:55:32] Speaker A: Imagine Huda on Beyond the Villa. Oh, no. Picture Huda with Janae and Serena. Anything. Leah. Well, Leah could maybe be like, babe, have a seat. Let's talk. Right? I could have been you. You can be me. Like, you can have it all. [00:55:53] Speaker B: Listen, as much as I get annoyed with Huda, I'd be. I wouldn't lose. She'd be fun TV to watch. That's all I'm saying. [00:56:00] Speaker A: She would. She would. And I mean, wow, we're done. And just like that, Amaya, Papaya, Brahmaya are winners of Love island season seven. And we're so happy in Nickelandria. We. We did that. We. We did that. And that's all I wanted, truly. And I'm happy with what we got. I'm happy. I'm not gonna even be greedy. We feasted, we got some great kisses, got at least an exclusive couple winning. First time we've seen someone break up in a final date. It's been a lot of firsts this season in the US and in the franchise in general. And I'm hoping that next season, this was a learning curve for. And next season we'll be in a better place because this is. This is our safe space. We love Love island and it's like our. I, you know, it's just like we're kicking our feet. We're kicking our feet. We want to kick our feet. We want to be giddy, we want to get fanny flutters. We want to see the. The inception of someone kissing on day one to ending up together and getting married and having kids and having a family. Like, I just love. I mean, that's just why I love this fucking show. I'm a hopeless romantic at heart. And this. Just removing all the outside so they could really focus on stuff and play house and build stuff together. I just. I live for it. I live for it. I'm excited for the reunion. And we got Auntie Cohen co hosting with Ariana. Love that. It's going to be great. I hope that, you know, we get some good stuff in between. And we'll be here talking about beyond the villa, which I'm excited about. We had our first episode. Wasn't too much to report back, but we're going to be digging into it because it is going to be crazy. And I'm so excited to just have all of them back on our screens. And I can't wait to see what's gonna happen at this reunion. [00:58:15] Speaker B: Yeah, we'll be back talking about Love island again in a month, so. [00:58:20] Speaker A: Yay. Well, thanks for being here. Thanks for staying up late with me, dude. [00:58:26] Speaker B: Of course. I was itching to talk about this. I knew we couldn't wait until tomorrow. [00:58:31] Speaker A: No, we had to get it out now. Raw thoughts. [00:58:36] Speaker B: Raw dog this shit. [00:58:37] Speaker A: Raw dog it, honey. I'm sure I'll think of more stuff and see more edits to be like, damn it, I wish I thought of that. Why did I do it? But we just had to let it rip, truly. And I'm so glad that we did. And we're so glad you guys have been listening and watching and communicating with us all season long. Like I has said time and time again, it really is the best part of this show is being able to just be in, like, a global kiki, you know, it really is such a community of people being like, who did you vote for? How do you feel about this day? Do you think they're real? Why is she crashing out? Just all of it has been such a joy. It's honestly been the highlight of the season for me. It's just talking about it with strangers, friends, building relationships, and new dishers. We've gotten so many new dishers from just like all of the love island of it all. And stick around. Cause we're still gonna be dishing about it all. We still got big brother. Big brother just started, so we might. Who knows? Who knows? But the dish is still. We're still serving. We're still serving. And we love you guys. Thank you for being here and listening to another episode. And we'll see you in the villa.